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Taking into account EEs credited toward last year's class, how many total recruits can we take this cycle? I have to assume that if we bump up against a roster cap, that "the glitch will be fixed naturally" to our benefit and to the benefit of the FIUs, FAUs, and the Bethune Cookmans of the world. I realize we have major depth issues, but it sure would be nice to expedite the departure of Golden-era JAGs. Again, SIAP.

we fixed the glitch.webp
 

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NCAA counters
85 scholarships
105 total players
25 per class

We signed 19 kids in '16
25-19=6
We signed 3 transfers in '16
6-3=3
We can sign 25 kids for the '17 counter plus 3 EEs that count toward '16.
Pretty good knowing we can sign at least 28.

Now for the fuzzy logic.
Of the 19 kids we signed, 5 were EEs (Allison, Bethel, Pinckney, Shaq, McCloud) that could have been counted toward '15. A few things that I'm not 100% sure about: Sam Bruce counted toward '16 and enrolled so I believe we aren't allowed to use that counter again. That means we could sign anywhere from 28 to 33 kids so long as 3-8 are EE's that count toward '16.

Now for the real world.
We have 75 kids on ships and 11 seniors. That means as of today we have space for 21 kids. I expect some good attrition on the roster and hopefully the real world "son you will never play another down at Miami" sets in for kids like Loftus, JJones, +1-2 OL, Henley, 1 QB, McCray, Fines... to get us down from 75 kids to 65ish. Not all of the kids that leave have to transfer. For example, Knighton may end up as Medical Hardship. Not all of the kids that leave we will want leaving (good players won't like sitting on the 2nd string for long).

As of today, we have 19 commitments with 17-18 being scholarship players (hopefully Weldon & Feagels are "walk-ons"). If true, we have room for 4 today and likely 10 by NSD, after the year has ended and kids start to transfer. This would likely mean we still play under the 85 for '17 unless they find some late additions like Colbert.

We likely need to sign 28 kids to get near the 85 number come August. Of course we could sign 22-24 and hope only 1-2 kids leave but let's get real. The last five years at Miami has seen 5-10 kids leave each year and this is year one for a new coach. I predict 10 kids leaving which would mean we would have room for 31, may be not on NSD. My guess is we see 5-6 go before NSD and we hopefully sign 26-28 kids. We see another 3-5 go between spring and Sept leaving us short 2-4 spots (also available for the '18 class which has 15 spots as of today).
 
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Do other teams play under 85 this consistently? Seems like we're never close to the cap by the start of the season.
 
kryptonite said:
Do other teams play under 85 this consistently? Seems like we're never close to the cap by the start of the season.
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Pretty typical to be in the 78-80 range due to unexpected draft entries and dismissals and such. Takes really good planning and numbers games to be 83-85 every year
 
Sure, almost every team plays under 85 as it is hard to keep 85 kids happy, out of trouble, and in classrooms. Our issue isn't playing under 85 like you said, it is playing way below 85 and even 80 for the last 6 years. My guess is we will get close in '17 but we need to land another 8-10 kids in this class for that to happen AND we need to keep 55-58 kids from the current 75 that aren't seniors.

What we don't want is another mass exit of '17 seniors as grad transfers/NFL like Golden's first year. I'd much rather have the attrition come from '18 & '19 seniors (Fines, Loftus, Milo, McCray, Henley, Langham, JJones...) and add Knighton as a medical only IF we need that spot. The core of the roster isn't bad it is just the '14 & '15 class that has some kids that could go.


USC is in the same boat. Same with PSU. Only difference is that Miami decides to self impose for 2-3 years while the NCAA sat on the investigation.

What I don't want to see or hear, we are saving spots for the '18 class. We have 15 spots as of today. We will have room for 20-25 kids even if we sign 28 this year. Pretty safe to assume we have 10 gone from attrition in the next 6 months. That gets us to 18 spots for '18 before August of next year. Pretty safe to assume we have another 5 gone from attrition in the next 18 months. That gets us to 23 spots for '18 out of 25ish(assuming the FILL this class).
 
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