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Homers vs Slurpers, the perennial argument that will seemingly never end.
So, before we start to "respect decisions" in the coming days, let's make a couple things clear...

Those who are overly positive: There's nothing wrong with that actually. We probably SHOULD be positive about our sports teams. Life is too short to constantly be negative. Why even be a fan if you are always assuming the worst? Additionally, I think this side is mostly reasonable. No one thinks Miami is perfect. We can all see our shortcomings. However, this side CHOOSES to see the glass as half full more often than not.

Those who are mostly negative: These guys aren't "less of a fan" than anyone else. They WANT to see Miami succeed. They've just become frustrated with the seemingly endless disappointments that come with being a Cane for the past 15 years. All the "bumped" threads from years back make people gun shy to hop on the banwagon. Our "one step forward" is always followed by "three steps back". It's just who we are. It's easier to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed. For example, with recruiting: until we actually close strong on signing day, why would any reasonable person think we'll land the Stevensens/Hasselwoods/Bogels of the world? We have missed on these kids year after year. If we actually pull some of these kids this year, maybe next year will bring a little more optimism. Bottomline is PROVE it.

So this year. Instead of the dozens of "told ya so" threads that always come around signing day, just remember that we all want the same thing. Our frustration isn't with each other. It's with the leaders in place that haven't done their jobs in 15 years.
 
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Modern day recruiting is a nightmare, especially in south Florida. Kids transfer schools every year for a chance at playoffs and exposure. No loyalty now means no loyalty later. I would prefer if we didn't accept commitments from 15-16 year olds because they rarely stick. However if we don't accept them, then all of the sudden we're the "bad guy" when we come back later with interest. It's a no-win situation for UM.

More importantly, the recruiting game has changed dramatically in the past 10-15 years. "Bags" used to be checks to relatives/handlers to sway kids. Then checks became "cash only". Now the game is nearly untraceable or at the very least unprovable by NCAA laws.
The modern day "bag" is any of the following:
  • Offering a kids brother/sister/relative a full academic/athletics scholarship even if not earned
  • Offering a kid's family member a job at the university - in most cases they are unqualified and/or overpaid for the position
  • Providing a zero down, zero% interest new car (loan is forgiven and/or car is returned upon player's departure from school)
  • My new favorite - boosters create a local not-for-profit funded with their own money. Then give "jobs" at not-for-profit to the family members of a recruit. The family members can literally do nothing and get paid - all while falling within the laws of 501C3 (IRS may not like it, but it's small potatoes to go after) - meanwhile, NCAA can turn a blind eye because it is 100% disconnected from the university.
You look at the four examples above and not only are we not playing this game, we're getting slapped by the NCAA for insanely minuscule stuff - Jacory getting meals paid for, players getting free entry and drinks at clubs, AQM and Grace rental car fiasco.

It's like sitting on the sidelines of a pickup basketball game, then when we try and step on the court we get called for a technical foul for having our shoe untied.

That rant went on longer than I expected - but we're stuck in the crazy realm of having a good/honest coach in a time when being "good" and "honest" does not get you the level of talent necessary to compete like we used to.
 
umhurricane2511 said:
Homers vs Slurpers, the perennial argument that will seemingly never end.
So, before we start to "respect decisions" in the coming days, let's make a couple things clear...

Those who are overly positive: There's nothing wrong with that actually. We probably SHOULD be positive about our sports teams. Life is too short to constantly be negative. Why even be a fan if you are always assuming the worst? Additionally, I think this side is mostly reasonable. No one thinks Miami is perfect. We can all see our shortcomings. However, this side CHOOSES to see the glass as half full more often than not.

Those who are mostly negative: These guys aren't "less of a fan" than anyone else. They WANT to see Miami succeed. They've just become frustrated with the seemingly endless disappointments that come with being a Cane for the past 15 years. All the "bumped" threads from years back make people gun shy to hop on the banwagon. Our "one step forward" is always followed by "three steps back". It's just who we are. It's easier to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed. For example, with recruiting: until we actually close strong on signing day, why would any reasonable person think we'll land the Stevensens/Hasselwoods/Bogels of the world? We have missed on these kids year after year. If we actually pull some of these kids this year, maybe next year will bring a little more optimism. Bottomline is PROVE it.

So this year. Instead of the dozens of "told ya so" threads that always come around signing day, just remember that we all want the same thing. Our frustration isn't with each other. It's with the leaders in place that haven't done their jobs in 15 years.
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Eh. Listening to the same excuses on these boards for 15+ years isn’t any more fun than listening to the same excuses from our corching staffs over the same period. Slurpers are slurpers. They’re delusional and time has proven them wrong. The administration is not serious about football, and it shows.

More clarity of diagnosis might help, because it would put more pressure on the institution to take the program seriously.
 
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umhurricane2511 said:
Homers vs Slurpers, the perennial argument that will seemingly never end.
So, before we start to "respect decisions" in the coming days, let's make a couple things clear...

Those who are overly positive: There's nothing wrong with that actually. We probably SHOULD be positive about our sports teams. Life is too short to constantly be negative. Why even be a fan if you are always assuming the worst? Additionally, I think this side is mostly reasonable. No one thinks Miami is perfect. We can all see our shortcomings. However, this side CHOOSES to see the glass as half full more often than not.

Those who are mostly negative: These guys aren't "less of a fan" than anyone else. They WANT to see Miami succeed. They've just become frustrated with the seemingly endless disappointments that come with being a Cane for the past 15 years. All the "bumped" threads from years back make people gun shy to hop on the banwagon. Our "one step forward" is always followed by "three steps back". It's just who we are. It's easier to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed. For example, with recruiting: until we actually close strong on signing day, why would any reasonable person think we'll land the Stevensens/Hasselwoods/Bogels of the world? We have missed on these kids year after year. If we actually pull some of these kids this year, maybe next year will bring a little more optimism. Bottomline is PROVE it.

So this year. Instead of the dozens of "told ya so" threads that always come around signing day, just remember that we all want the same thing. Our frustration isn't with each other. It's with the leaders in place that haven't done their jobs in 15 years.
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Appreciate this, but I can definitely tell you there are a couple of posters on here that I definitely am frustrated w b/c I know they are not fans, but merely trolls looking to irritate the majority.
 
HurricaneAce07 said:
Modern day recruiting is a nightmare, especially in south Florida. Kids transfer schools every year for a chance at playoffs and exposure. No loyalty now means no loyalty later. I would prefer if we didn't accept commitments from 15-16 year olds because they rarely stick. However if we don't accept them, then all of the sudden we're the "bad guy" when we come back later with interest. It's a no-win situation for UM.

More importantly, the recruiting game has changed dramatically in the past 10-15 years. "Bags" used to be checks to relatives/handlers to sway kids. Then checks became "cash only". Now the game is nearly untraceable or at the very least unprovable by NCAA laws.
The modern day "bag" is any of the following:
  • Offering a kids brother/sister/relative a full academic/athletics scholarship even if not earned
  • Offering a kid's family member a job at the university - in most cases they are unqualified and/or overpaid for the position
  • Providing a zero down, zero% interest new car (loan is forgiven and/or car is returned upon player's departure from school)
  • My new favorite - boosters create a local not-for-profit funded with their own money. Then give "jobs" at not-for-profit to the family members of a recruit. The family members can literally do nothing and get paid - all while falling within the laws of 501C3 (IRS may not like it, but it's small potatoes to go after) - meanwhile, NCAA can turn a blind eye because it is 100% disconnected from the university.
You look at the four examples above and not only are we not playing this game, we're getting slapped by the NCAA for insanely minuscule stuff - Jacory getting meals paid for, players getting free entry and drinks at clubs, AQM and Grace rental car fiasco.

It's like sitting on the sidelines of a pickup basketball game, then when we try and step on the court we get called for a technical foul for having our shoe untied.

That rant went on longer than I expected - but we're stuck in the crazy realm of having a good/honest coach in a time when being "good" and "honest" does not get you the level of talent necessary to compete like we used to.
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How does that not for profit scheme work? What kind of businesses do they run?
 
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