Empirical Cane
We are what we repeatedly do.
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Some long overdue and necessary.
I like the "FIU rule".
I like the "FIU rule".
Some long overdue and necessary.
I like the "FIU rule".
They took a step forward addressing it. I should have been more clear.They didn't actually fix the faking an injury. It's really as simple as if you go down, you sit the rest of the drive. You have 85 scholarships....use them.
And it does make sense a player with a legit injury, albeit minor, might not want to come out if it means the remainder of the drive. I understand the safety concern.They took a step forward addressing it. I should have been more clear.
Cattle prod."...What seems missing is how to identify a fake injury as opposed to a legit short-term issue like a cramp..."
As long as the penalty is not enforced in the injury tent, I’m down…Cattle prod.
Administered anally.
#TimeToSeparateTheMenFromTheBoys
Heck with it. Just start calling a penalty if a player cramps up / fakes at any point where it benefits his team. Cramps happen, but when they happen FIU style, it's pretty **** obvious. Maybe have it cost the team a timeout as well. If timeouts are gone, it becomes a 15 yard penalty. Otherwise they will run a player out there, have him cramp up, then simply put their starter back in.And it does make sense a player with a legit injury, albeit minor, might not want to come out if it means the remainder of the drive. I understand the safety concern.
What seems missing is how to identify a fake injury as opposed to a legit short-term issue like a cramp.
And what the punishment should be if indeed a team/players were judged to be faking. Like FIU.
Yeah I can see the concern with dinged up players continuing to play so they can stay in the drive.And it does make sense a player with a legit injury, albeit minor, might not want to come out if it means the remainder of the drive. I understand the safety concern.
What seems missing is how to identify a fake injury as opposed to a legit short-term issue like a cramp.
And what the punishment should be if indeed a team/players were judged to be faking. Like FIU.
Yes, FIU was quite ridiculous, done repetitively in an obvious flaunting of there being no enforceable rule against it. Has there been another game where this occurred?Heck with it. Just start calling a penalty if a player cramps up / fakes at any point where it benefits his team. Cramps happen, but when they happen FIU style, it's pretty **** obvious. Maybe have it cost the team a timeout as well. If timeouts are gone, it becomes a 15 yard penalty. Otherwise they will run a player out there, have him cramp up, then simply put their starter back in.
On the second injury, on the defense, call a 10-yard or half-the-distance penalty and automatic first down. If the injury is on the offense, call a 10-yard penalty and loss of down.I don't think you can do it per player because they'll just start sending scrubs out to take "injuries". I think you have to punish the team. I would say any team with three injury stoppages on a drive must take a timeout. If there's no timeouts left then the opposing team receives one.
In all honesty, you probably should be forced to take a timeout if that many players are actually going down. And if a team is getting the benefit of that much time off the other side should be given additional time as well.
You could also make that rule up the refs. If they believe the injuries are fake they can apply the rule on the 3rd injury. You can claim the refs have the discretion to manage both cheating and a dangerous situation where injuries are happening quickly.
The whole reason defenses fake injuries is to slow down no huddle offenses. If the offense doesn’t substitute any players between plays, they’re under no obligation to wait for the defense to sub. The defense can still risk subbing a guy but it’s really hard to get one guy off and a new guy into position fast enough. The offense can snap the ball whenever they want. The defense is either going to have 12 men on the field or at best, a guy who can’t get lined up in time. It would be incredibly risky to send out a benchwarmer just to fake an injury.I don't think you can do it per player because they'll just start sending scrubs out to take "injuries". I think you have to punish the team. I would say any team with three injury stoppages on a drive must take a timeout. If there's no timeouts left then the opposing team receives one.
In all honesty, you probably should be forced to take a timeout if that many players are actually going down. And if a team is getting the benefit of that much time off the other side should be given additional time as well.
You could also make that rule up the refs. If they believe the injuries are fake they can apply the rule on the 3rd injury. You can claim the refs have the discretion to manage both cheating and a dangerous situation where injuries are happening quickly.
What seems missing is how to identify a fake injury as opposed to a legit short-term issue like a cramp.
There have been many games where it was obvious, but I’ve never seen a game where the team didn’t bother to hide it like FIU. It was so bad the athletic trainers were running onto the field laughing and high fiving the injured player while he was still lying on the ground.Yes, FIU was quite ridiculous, done repetitively in an obvious flaunting of there being no enforceable rule against it. Has there been another game where this occurred?
I have seen it in other games, but not to THAT level. I've seen it enough to know it needs a serious fix.Yes, FIU was quite ridiculous, done repetitively in an obvious flaunting of there being no enforceable rule against it. Has there been another game where this occurred?