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CaneSuger

CaneSuger

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When will you dummies figure out play calling isn't the problem?

We don't have the PERSONNEL yet to be a dominant red zone team. For what we have, we're doing pretty well.

You need tight ends, first and foremost. Cleveland and Walford are basically hot garbage, let's face it.

You also want a big back that can pound it in, and TALL wideouts in the red zone. We don't have that right now.

Wait until Travis Johnson, Standish Dobard, Jontavious Carter, D'Mauri Jones, and Danny Dillard have a U Tough or two under their belts.

Oh the red zone also favors a QB who can throw a touch pass and a good fade.
 
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You're making our point though. We DON'T have TEs... so why run PA and throw to them from the 2 yardline?

We can't get 2 yards running 3 straight times? and if not... ok.... fg is better than INT there. Changed whole momentum of game.

I love Fisch - he's owning defensive coordinators using Miami's speed (love it). But his inside the 5 stuff is driving me bonkers.
 
I will ******* understand when we are 1 down with 2 yards to go and we **** line up power I am smash it down there ******* throat.
 
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Spoken like someone that has never had an understand of schemes or play calling. The redzone is where scheme and playcalling matters the most. Regardless of that, one doesn't just struggle when you don't have certain pieces on the football field. You use what you have to its maximum potential. That goes with anything, not just football. We're not talking about heart surgery here. Specialists are not what is absolutely required in order to score in the redzone. They'll make it easier but ultimately they have to be used right too. That's where play calling and scheming comes in.

You're dead wrong here.
 
At that point in the game you have a chance to bury them. Even a field goal there hurts them. What you absolutely can't do is turn the ball over in the air. We have the line and backs to dominate that situation. Go to a power set and run the ball in.
 
You fool. Don't you understand that between the 20's you have a lot more space.... so.... a "spread-em-out" type offense works better there than it does in the red zone. Everything is compressed in the red zone.

It's the same reason why our zone defense gives up a million yards but isn't half bad in the red zone when the spaces get tighter.

Caneofthe718 said:
Spoken like someone that has never had an understand of schemes or play calling. The redzone is where scheme and playcalling matters the most. Regardless of that, one doesn't just struggle when you don't have certain pieces on the football field. You use what you have to its maximum potential. That goes with anything, not just football. We're not talking about heart surgery here. Specialists are not what is absolutely required in order to score in the redzone. They'll make it easier but ultimately they have to be used right too. That's where play calling and scheming comes in.

You're dead wrong here.
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Hey **** happens. Sometimes you gamble and it doesn't pay off. That ball gets intercepted maybe 5% of the time. If you want to whine about anything, whine about the fake field goal that was converted. That one could have come back and bit us in the ***.

Obviously Golden and his staff are playing to win and not playing it too safe.

3FW said:
At that point in the game you have a chance to bury them. Even a field goal there hurts them. What you absolutely can't do is turn the ball over in the air. We have the line and backs to dominate that situation. Go to a power set and run the ball in.
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Morris had trouble throwing the ball within 8 yards in front of him all day. Was weird.

And no, you have to run it 1st-goal on the 2 with this roster. No legit big, physical targets on this team, and recent canes teams have a history of QBs throwing game-crippling redzone ints; avoid that chance at all costs.
 
Our oline got very little if any push today. I agree with the original post. Fisch had scoring plays called.
 
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