Overlooked so far..no former player bans

[Ispyin]

Empty threats, or um push back... I don't care which.

bottom line....


you you can't break up the U family.

come back back home whenever you want
(except clowns like moss and a couple others)

 

[Cane[]_[]DigIt]

Very good point... no wins revoked.. (not that there were many recently).

FEELS GOOD... FREE AT LAST!

 

[ssvir]

Randy Phillips SHOULD be banned. Snitch.

 

[RiDLer80]

Snitches ain't welcome.

 

[Gatorhater]

Fromer players on the sideline, oh yeah baby. That is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO improtant for THE U. Doesn't matter much to other schools because their players don't come back. For us it is EVERYTHING.

 

[TheCaneShow]

Step 1: Yahoo Fraud Shock
Step 2: Faux Outrage From Talking Heads (Mark May ect.)
Step 3: Screams And Threats For The DEATH PENALTY
Step 4: Hilariously Inept Investigation For 18 Months
Step 5: (tumbleweeds)
Step 6: Profit?

 

[L A M P]

I'd love for Kyle Wright to attempt walking through the building.. or Randy Phillips for that matter.

 

[edge]

Good point!

 

[dycane]

It's clear as day from the moment called out the NCAA that we were in control of the process and not the other way around. This was a negotiation, not an administrative judgment.

 

[canestim]

Not by the NCAA but The U has... T-Moss, Randy Phillips, Kyle Wright... who else was a snitch?

 

[eliteproxy]

also... no vacated wins! UF fan base was hoping they could snatch a "win" with NCAA help hahahaahahhahaahahaahahahaahahah....HHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAH..hahaha!

 

[SFbayCane]

Not by the NCAA but The U has... T-Moss, Randy Phillips, Kyle Wright... who else was a snitch?

Bull****! Randy Phillips did NOT speak to the NCAA. Get it right!

 

[dudenate]

I'd love for Kyle Wright to attempt walking through the building.. or Randy Phillips for that matter.

Wright was welcome back before all this mess??? Geesh...tell him and Ryan Moore and A. Jolla to stay away regardless.

 

[stat1124]

Ya'll keep saying Randy Phillips snitched...but NOWHERE in any of the allegations did it mention that he actually spoke against the U. Nowhere, even after the names were redacted was even his initials mention. At least not from what I can find. He has said he didn't snitch....So for those calling him a snitch....Show proof. I haven't seen it. Not defending him but looking at the evidence we had....I can't go there on him without seeing some information to justify that! canestim, ilovelamp or ssvir, speak up!

 

[canestim]

Not by the NCAA but The U has... T-Moss, Randy Phillips, Kyle Wright... who else was a snitch?

Bull****! Randy Phillips did NOT speak to the NCAA. Get it right!

Uh, never said he did? A little over-reaction much? He spoke to the papers which to me is just as bad, you don't turn your back on family. He still snitched just through different means, a snitch is a snitch is a snitch.

 

[stat1124]

But Canestim, what did he say to the papers. That's the part I must have missed. Just trying to get the facts. How did he snitch. Link if you got it. Thanks.

Not by the NCAA but The U has... T-Moss, Randy Phillips, Kyle Wright... who else was a snitch?

Bull****! Randy Phillips did NOT speak to the NCAA. Get it right!

Uh, never said he did? A little over-reaction much? He spoke to the papers which to me is just as bad, you don't turn your back on family. He still snitched just through different means, a snitch is a snitch is a snitch.

 

[Classic]

Randy Phillips shouldn't have spoken on the record to anyone.

You're a good dude, SFbay, but your distinction here is irrelevant. Your loyalty is admirable, but Phillips is undeserving.

I'm not going to pat him on the back for not speaking to the NCAA; that's precisely what most of our alumni did.

But then he went and did something most everyone did not do, and that's talk to the media. That Phillips story will fall by the wayside to the bigger story (Miami is free), so it's of little to no consequence. That's true. But that doesn't make Phillips' betrayal any less palpable.

 

[Classic]

But Canestim, what did he say to the papers. That's the part I must have missed. Just trying to get the facts. How did he snitch. Link if you got it. Thanks.

Not by the NCAA but The U has... T-Moss, Randy Phillips, Kyle Wright... who else was a snitch?

Bull****! Randy Phillips did NOT speak to the NCAA. Get it right!

Uh, never said he did? A little over-reaction much? He spoke to the papers which to me is just as bad, you don't turn your back on family. He still snitched just through different means, a snitch is a snitch is a snitch.

Here ya go: Snitch-***-ness. You can cease your incredulousness.

 

[canestim]

But Canestim, what did he say to the papers. That's the part I must have missed. Just trying to get the facts. How did he snitch. Link if you got it. Thanks.

Not by the NCAA but The U has... T-Moss, Randy Phillips, Kyle Wright... who else was a snitch?

Bull****! Randy Phillips did NOT speak to the NCAA. Get it right!

Uh, never said he did? A little over-reaction much? He spoke to the papers which to me is just as bad, you don't turn your back on family. He still snitched just through different means, a snitch is a snitch is a snitch.

Posted last night before the NCAA release:
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-10-21/sports/fl-randy-phillips-hurricanes-ncaa-1022-20131031_1_um-players-south-beach-yahoo-sports

And for the record just to clarify, yes I know he did not snitch to the NCAA as the above article stated he refused to talk to the NCAA. BUT the dude did a tell all to the paper, for what? Money? Poor me I didn't make the NFL and I have to work like everyone else? No reason to trash the U like that and for that he is a **** snitch and will be forever labeled that way to me along with TMoss and Wright.

 

[stat1124]

Ahhh Nevermind...I found it. Here it is: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...0131031_1_um-players-south-beach-yahoo-sports

I TAKE THAT BACK. THAT IS SNITCHING! No way around it. Keep ya mouth shut regardless of how much a paper is going to pay you for your story.

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Randy Phillips knew he was far from home the moment he headed toward the bathroom at a South Beach nightclub a few years ago.

Before he could make his way, he was stopped by the friend who accompanied him at the club. The friend asked if Phillips wanted an escort from his gun-carrying bodyguard.
It was then he knew how lavish life was going to be hanging with this new friend, former University of Miami booster Nevin Shapiro, now in prison for his role in a Ponzi scheme.

"I felt like I was on top of the world," Phillips said. "Man, I come from Belle Glade, Florida. We don't have a Wal-Mart. We don't have a movie theater. So imagine this."

Phillips, who played at UM from 2005-09, was one of the players named in the scandalous Yahoo Sports! report that shocked college football the summer of 2011. None of the accused has spoken publicly on his involvement with Shapiro.

Until now.

The university is expected to receive its penalty Tuesday after an investigation of the allegations, of which Phillips says most are true. He would know, considering he says he was Shapiro's right-hand man throughout college. There were cars. There were expensive meals. There were clothes. And, of course, there were women.

"I know if [Shapiro] said it, he did it," Phillips said. "There were no lies in there, not to my knowledge. … The stuff that he said [in the Yahoo Sports! article], he had already told me had happened."

Phillips refused to be interviewed by the NCAA during its probe of the UM program.

Phillips became a passenger on the money train in the fall of his freshman year in 2005. He and a few teammates were invited to Shapiro's South Beach home, where they ate steaks and rode Jet Skis. Shapiro instantly took a liking to Phillips. So a friendship began, and it developed to a point that Phillips was referred to in the Yahoo article as the "Queen Bee" of rounding up players for Shapiro.

"From there on, it was just me and him," Phillips said. "I was like his runner."

Phillips says Shapiro lured him with the cash he swindled from investors. Shapiro was later sentenced to 20 years in prison for his involvement in a $930 million Ponzi scheme.

Shapiro threw around large sums of money to attract players. Phillips recalled a time they were at the Lucky Strike bowling alley/nightclub on South Beach when Shapiro used cash to help him gain the attention of a ****tail waitress.

"He said, 'Randy, you like that waitress? I'm going to give her 100 dollars each time she walks by,"' Phillips said. "She walked by at least 50 times."

Their relationship was simple. Phillips said he served as the link between Shapiro and the new crop of UM players. Shapiro, in turn, would take care of him financially. There were never bags of cash as portrayed in the movies.
Phillips says it was more like a few hundred dollars here for groceries. Maybe a couple hundred more there for toys for Phillips' son. Sometimes, Shapiro and Phillips would play pool in his home at $500 a game.

"I mean, he couldn't shoot pool," Phillips said. "And if I lost, I didn't have to pay 500 bucks. It was just like whatever I needed, he was there for me."

And other players.

Phillips confirmed Shapiro offered payouts for plays on the field, but only for big games, such as Florida or Florida State. Big hits and interception returns for touchdowns were worth $500. When they played the Gators in 2008, a $5,000 price tag was placed on knocking Tim Tebow out of the game.

A player could easily add a thousand bucks to the totals just by making a pistol-shooting gesture with his hands after making a big play. However, it had nothing to do with a gun. It was referred to as the "Double Ls," a reference to Shapiro's nickname of "Little Luke."

That was a twist on the "Uncle Luke" nickname of entertainer Luther Campbell, who notoriously took care of UM players in the 1980s and '90s.

"We were playing hard for Nevin, for the money," Phillips said.

Phillips said the university was aware of everything. He asked how could they be oblivious when Shapiro was so blatant?

"They couldn't recruit without Nevin," Phillips said. "It got to the point where Nevin was the recruiter. Every top star player came through Nevin's house. That's how they were using me."

Years later, Phillips, who is out of football after a shoulder injury ended his NFL career, says he has no regrets except for the fact it affected the program afterward.

In fact, he wishes he had taken more. Without their relationship, Phillips would have never experienced dinners at Prime 112, $8,000 bar tabs, wine from "the 1940 and '50s," and the days of sitting beside Shapiro on the couch as he made $50,000 bets on the Hurricanes, according to Phillips.

Phillips felt he was the victim of the NCAA trap, a system that prevents players from making money off their athletic ability. He grew up poor. He was a father. He needed assistance. He felt it was impossible to turn down the money.

What made it worse in Phillips' mind was he said university officials introduced him to Shapiro, yet the players and coaches received most of the blame.

"It's like: How did the university protect us from people like this who was donating money, whose name was on the player's lounge, who bought us all these TVs and video games?" Phillips said.

"Of course, I'm going to want to shake his hand and be cool with him. … It's kind of like they put us in a situation where this guy was our savior."

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