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Cool story. Gotta meet those quotas. Once you get in it’s rare you will get bad grades no matter what. They are trying to keep up the prestige. Miami, Stanford, ga tech, all better academic schools in my opinion. Ivey’s Are overrated

No need to down vote him. He is correct on the grades at Ivy league schools. The hardest part of these schools is getting in. Several family members attend or have attended IVY league schools. All of them say the hardest part is getting in.

I downvoted the "quota" aspersion. No undergrad work is all THAT difficult aside from a couple select majors (pre-med and Engineering). Of course if you have a concentration of highly capable students doing a liberal arts course grades will be high
 

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Cool story. Gotta meet those quotas. Once you get in it’s rare you will get bad grades no matter what. They are trying to keep up the prestige. Miami, Stanford, ga tech, all better academic schools in my opinion. Ivey’s Are overrated

I would never guess that someone's admission is a reflection of anything other than academic potential. This kid is probably a very bright young man. But that's the thing though. POTENTIAL means you still ain't done sht.

No doubt the Ivies offer a great education. But passing his series 7 and 63 or MCAT or Bar Exam will be a FAR bigger accomplishment.

I'm not hating. Hope the young man does well. But people have this notion that Ivy acceptance is the equivalent of a Powerball win, when I know for a fact that you still have to put in the work. I know a Brown grad that is getting his house foreclosed on. It's a springboard, but you still gotta do it.

A GTech 4.0 Computer Science major also has the POTENTIAL to earn serious coin.


Puuuleaseee. It’s a fact. Social justice quotas have to be met first. It may make you feel uncomfortable but it is a fact!
 
Cool story. Gotta meet those quotas. Once you get in it’s rare you will get bad grades no matter what. They are trying to keep up the prestige. Miami, Stanford, ga tech, all better academic schools in my opinion. Ivey’s Are overrated

I would never guess that someone's admission is a reflection of anything other than academic potential. This kid is probably a very bright young man. But that's the thing though. POTENTIAL means you still ain't done sht.

No doubt the Ivies offer a great education. But passing his series 7 and 63 or MCAT or Bar Exam will be a FAR bigger accomplishment.

I'm not hating. Hope the young man does well. But people have this notion that Ivy acceptance is the equivalent of a Powerball win, when I know for a fact that you still have to put in the work. I know a Brown grad that is getting his house foreclosed on. It's a springboard, but you still gotta do it.

A GTech 4.0 Computer Science major also has the POTENTIAL to earn serious coin.


Puuuleaseee. It’s a fact. Social justice quotas have to be met first. It may make you feel uncomfortable but it is a fact!

Unless you've seen the kid's SAT and transcript this is baseless speculation. To be graduating high school at 16 indicates very high intelligence by itself. Ivy admission is more evidence in that column. I would bet everything I have this is a very accomplished young man.
 
When this kid is taking a 5:27 AM train to go to a sterile office and get verbally sodomized by a ****head VP in London over teleconference about a desk PnL rec macro (that is correct by the way) he worked on until 1 the prior morning, I hope the happy memories of the acceptance to a "target" school are still there

That life isn’t for some people. Others thrive. Really depends on the person.
 
Cool story. Gotta meet those quotas. Once you get in it’s rare you will get bad grades no matter what. They are trying to keep up the prestige. Miami, Stanford, ga tech, all better academic schools in my opinion. Ivey’s Are overrated

No need to down vote him. He is correct on the grades at Ivy league schools. The hardest part of these schools is getting in. Several family members attend or have attended IVY league schools. All of them say the hardest part is getting in.

Yea I went to HLS and getting in was the hard part. What surprised me the most wasn't how smart the students were, but how hard they worked.
 
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Cool story. Gotta meet those quotas. Once you get in it’s rare you will get bad grades no matter what. They are trying to keep up the prestige. Miami, Stanford, ga tech, all better academic schools in my opinion. Ivey’s Are overrated

I would never guess that someone's admission is a reflection of anything other than academic potential. This kid is probably a very bright young man. But that's the thing though. POTENTIAL means you still ain't done sht.

No doubt the Ivies offer a great education. But passing his series 7 and 63 or MCAT or Bar Exam will be a FAR bigger accomplishment.

I'm not hating. Hope the young man does well. But people have this notion that Ivy acceptance is the equivalent of a Powerball win, when I know for a fact that you still have to put in the work. I know a Brown grad that is getting his house foreclosed on. It's a springboard, but you still gotta do it.

A GTech 4.0 Computer Science major also has the POTENTIAL to earn serious coin.


Puuuleaseee. It’s a fact. Social justice quotas have to be met first. It may make you feel uncomfortable but it is a fact!

You have no idea how the admissions process works. Like how you say It's a fact, but provide no evidence. I guess we will all take your word for it.
 
Look at the average salary of a Harvard grad vs an Arkansas grad. Harvard $143,000, Arkansas $59,000. This is an easy choice. Very small chance this kid ever makes a dime playing football, go to Harvard kid!

These numbers are also quite misleading. I'd be willing to say a large percentage of Ivy grads come from wealthy backgrounds with more connections to higher paying jobs than the average State U grad does. Sometimes who you know is more important than what you know.

In addition cost of living differences are REAL. If you're making 80k in NYC Boston or the Bay you're not "poor" but it's definitely not rich. You can live like a boss on 60k in Mississippi or rural Arkansas I'd also guess that Arkansas is far more traditional. Many more female Arky grads are likely making $0 per year as a choice to be with children. Probably not the case for Harvard.

There's also many ways to get by in life. I worked at Goldman Sachs for a while as well as for high AUM buyside shops in Manhattan. I hated my life. I put on 40 pounds and was deeply depressed despite being "successful." I was paying 2850 a month for a studio apartment in kind of a sketch neighborhood in lower Manhattan. 4 floors above me a Moelis associate jumped to his death. In January I'm going to go to SW FL and work on a golf course or bartend or teach school while continuing to trade my own book. The brass ring can also be a piece of sht


WOW, thanks for sharing. You put that into perspective, I guess I've been taking advantage of my lifestyle for granted. Thank You...

Kind of you, but I still feel extremely blessed. I don't want anyone's pity and I certainly am not deserving of it, especially when a global scale is considered. My sister is actually still on the rates desk of one of these sellside hellholes. She also is unhappy, having difficult relationships, not sleeping well, persistent headaches etc. All for the hope of a 40k bonus. But after the tax man takes half and you have a very expensive lifestyle that isn't fulfilling, it doesn't seem worth it.

All that was to make the point that while it's a great accomplishment that this young man has been accepted to Harvard University, the celebration might be extremely premature. He might not know what's beyond the door when he signs up for OCR with GS, BAML, Nomura, McKinsey etc.

Funny enough, the highest net worth person I know went to SUNY Albany...



I understand, but it's how you said it that made me realize how much ( at certain times in my life) I abused my salary, or just didnt appreciate it.
I sure as **** do now.....again, thank you.
 
We all, especially adults, should be encouraging kids to achieve a "credible" college degree, secondary education or a trade school certification in a well paying trade. After I got my MBA, I thought it would give me an advantage over less educated colleagues, but there was a much more powerful preference I realized I would never meet. The real world ain't fair, but I'd advise anyone who qualifies for an Ivy League school to take it over a state school or most other private schools.
 
Cool story. Gotta meet those quotas. Once you get in it’s rare you will get bad grades no matter what. They are trying to keep up the prestige. Miami, Stanford, ga tech, all better academic schools in my opinion. Ivey’s Are overrated

Why do you think most of the big named companies were started by guys that went to top schools? They work their asses off. There's a reason they're there. Elon Musk went to Penn and then got into Stanford for grad school but chose to start a company instead of enrolling.

The guys that work their *** off in football go to the Miamis and Alabamas. They're much more likely to go pro than some dude that goes to Rutgers. Same for education. You're much more likely to be rich if you go to Harvard or Stanford, and it's not because of the name of the school.
 
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Look at the average salary of a Harvard grad vs an Arkansas grad. Harvard $143,000, Arkansas $59,000. This is an easy choice. Very small chance this kid ever makes a dime playing football, go to Harvard kid!

These numbers are also quite misleading. I'd be willing to say a large percentage of Ivy grads come from wealthy backgrounds with more connections to higher paying jobs than the average State U grad does. Sometimes who you know is more important than what you know.

In addition cost of living differences are REAL. If you're making 80k in NYC Boston or the Bay you're not "poor" but it's definitely not rich. You can live like a boss on 60k in Mississippi or rural Arkansas I'd also guess that Arkansas is far more traditional. Many more female Arky grads are likely making $0 per year as a choice to be with children. Probably not the case for Harvard.

There's also many ways to get by in life. I worked at Goldman Sachs for a while as well as for high AUM buyside shops in Manhattan. I hated my life. I put on 40 pounds and was deeply depressed despite being "successful." I was paying 2850 a month for a studio apartment in kind of a sketch neighborhood in lower Manhattan. 4 floors above me a Moelis associate jumped to his death. In January I'm going to go to SW FL and work on a golf course or bartend or teach school while continuing to trade my own book. The brass ring can also be a piece of sht

Yeah. Some years back, I moved to NYC to work for a Wall Street law firm. That's all I did. No life at all. Miserable existence. Then, after a few years you get dumped. Very few are lucky enough to stay and make partner. It takes luck as much as talent. Not worth it.
 
Cool story. Gotta meet those quotas. Once you get in it’s rare you will get bad grades no matter what. They are trying to keep up the prestige. Miami, Stanford, ga tech, all better academic schools in my opinion. Ivey’s Are overrated

Why do you think most of the big named companies were started by guys that went to top schools? They work their asses off. There's a reason they're there. Elon Musk went to Penn and then got into Stanford for grad school but chose to start a company instead of enrolling.

The guys that work their *** off in football go to the Miamis and Alabamas. They're much more likely to go pro than some dude that goes to Rutgers. Same for education. You're much more likely to be rich if you go to Harvard or Stanford, and it's not because of the name of the school.

Name if the school does make a difference, especially in law and most especially in big law firms. Their graduates don't necessarily work any harder or are any smarter than many who go to school a tier below the top. Sometimes those just slightly below will work even harder to overcome the disadvantage but it is not always recognized.
 
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Education is a small portion of what you pay for. You pay for the name recognition, the access (to employers), and the network. It's tough for a kid to actually know what they want to do with their lives. I didn't know until I was in my late 20s and it may yet change. If you go to an Ivy your pedigree is rarely questioned (whether you are applying to grad school or a job) and the alumni network can be a very powerful thing if you know how to use them.

The conversation is a little like the star debate for recruiting: you have tons of 3 stars and lower that are successful, but ivy league grads succeed at a higher rate, on average. There are exceptions (the engineering schools named plus some really good ones no one talks about (Rensselaer, Cal Poly). It comes down to evaluation time and economics. You get the benefit of the doubt if you go to a named school and sometimes that is all you need.
 
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