New NCAA rule in 2016

[CanesDominate]

NCAA is forcing incoming freshmen with GPA of 2.3 or lower
to redshirt. Interested in hearing how you guys feel this will
effect the recruiting landscape.

 

[FinsFishandCaneS]

More grades tampering in the future

 

[Plzwork4]

Its core GPA too.

 

[RiDLer80]

Business as usual for SEC schools.

 

[IHATETHISPLACE]

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/eligibility_center/Important_New_Rules/2016_DI_New_Academic_Requirements.pdf

The new minimum GPA goes up from 2.0 to 2.3
The GPA requirements on the sliding scale have gone up roughly .5. See the sliding scale for 2016 graduates at the bottom of this page.
You must complete 10 of your 16 core course before your senior year of high school
You will not be allowed to retake any of your 10 core courses before your senior year for a higher score.

 

[IHATETHISPLACE]

Business as usual for SEC schools.

doubt it there will be more redshirt

 

[niner]

NCAA is forcing incoming freshmen with GPA of 2.3 or lower
to redshirt. Interested in hearing how you guys feel this will
effect the recruiting landscape.

In theory, this should help "straighten" out the kids who don't take school seriously. Having to sit out a year because of grades "should" scare them.

In reality, most likely will lead to more "fixing" of grades.

 

[RiDLer80]

Business as usual for SEC schools.

doubt it there will be more redshirt

I was talking about high school grade tampering.

Who was that recruit for Bama that changed schools on the request of the Bama guy recruiting him?

 

[HurricaneU]

Just another issue for programs, both prep and college, to work under, around or over.

I'm in favor of less barriers for young athletes, of any gender or sport, to their realize their full athletic and economical potential. We need a different system. One that recognizes athletic ability as a unique and valuable - or should I say uniquely valuable - and caters academic offerings to support it; rather than put up arbitrary roadblocks.

All so those who profit off young athletes can claim a halo of legitimacy and a false sense of moral superiority.

 

[IHATETHISPLACE]

Business as usual for SEC schools.

doubt it there will be more redshirt

I was talking about high school grade tampering.

Who was that recruit for Bama that changed schools on the request of the Bama guy recruiting him?

Well Pruitt had Darius Paige move from Florida to Alabama for his Sr year. Bama also sent Bo to IMG. With this new rule a prospect like Bo would have to redshirt a year once he got in. Players that were behind like Brady and Grey would have to redshirt.

 

[Plzwork4]

Just another issue for programs, both prep and college, to work under, around or over.

I'm in favor of less barriers for young athletes, of any gender or sport, to their realize their full athletic and economical potential. We need a different system. One that recognizes athletic ability as a unique and valuable - or should I say uniquely valuable - and caters academic offerings to support it; rather than put up arbitrary roadblocks.

All so those who profit off young athletes can claim a halo of legitimacy and a false sense of moral superiority.

You're going to college. You should be qualified enough to squeak by college courses. Athletes get enough preferential treatment as is.

 

[westcoastcanes]

Just another issue for programs, both prep and college, to work under, around or over.

I'm in favor of less barriers for young athletes, of any gender or sport, to their realize their full athletic and economical potential. We need a different system. One that recognizes athletic ability as a unique and valuable - or should I say uniquely valuable - and caters academic offerings to support it; rather than put up arbitrary roadblocks.

All so those who profit off young athletes can claim a halo of legitimacy and a false sense of moral superiority.

Interesting. I am in favor of young athletes of any gender or sport realizing less than 1% will go on to make a living in the sport they are playing in high school, and adjusting their priorities so that a 2.3 gpa is not a roadblock at all. Practicing skills as a student, so that when they do get to college they graduate instead of leaving early to be an undrafted free agent, preferably with something other than a liberal arts degree so they can realize their full economic potential. We need a different system, kids are coddled from far too young an age in hopes of a long shot so they miss out on skills that will actually help them down the road as they slide through getting passes in life due to unique athletic ability.

 

[HurricaneU]

Just another issue for programs, both prep and college, to work under, around or over.

I'm in favor of less barriers for young athletes, of any gender or sport, to their realize their full athletic and economical potential. We need a different system. One that recognizes athletic ability as a unique and valuable - or should I say uniquely valuable - and caters academic offerings to support it; rather than put up arbitrary roadblocks.

All so those who profit off young athletes can claim a halo of legitimacy and a false sense of moral superiority.

You're going to college. You should be qualified enough to squeak by college courses. Athletes get enough preferential treatment as is.

There is a supposition to my argument that I'm afraid I didn't make explicit. Allow me to do so now. That it is college that athletes have to go to to further their highest economic potential is the problem insofar as that potential is directly tied to non-academic skill (i.e. athletic). At best, there is an inherent tension in the system. At worst, it is hypocrisy. If we reverse the roles and require, for example, engineering students to run a sub 4.6 40, the absurdity would be apparent. There would be justifiable outrage at requiring individuals who want to be students and academics to engage in non-academic assessments and evaluation.

To be clear Plz, I don't disagree that college athletes receive preferential treatment. However, that preferential treatment in my estimation is a systemic flaw of amateur athletics and underscores my argument.

Allow colleges to either develop programs honestly and in the open around athletic ability first or simply get out of the business of college sports.

 

[HurricaneU]

Just another issue for programs, both prep and college, to work under, around or over.

I'm in favor of less barriers for young athletes, of any gender or sport, to their realize their full athletic and economical potential. We need a different system. One that recognizes athletic ability as a unique and valuable - or should I say uniquely valuable - and caters academic offerings to support it; rather than put up arbitrary roadblocks.

All so those who profit off young athletes can claim a halo of legitimacy and a false sense of moral superiority.

Interesting. I am in favor of young athletes of any gender or sport realizing less than 1% will go on to make a living in the sport they are playing in high school, and adjusting their priorities so that a 2.3 gpa is not a roadblock at all. Practicing skills as a student, so that when they do get to college they graduate instead of leaving early to be an undrafted free agent, preferably with something other than a liberal arts degree so they can realize their full economic potential. We need a different system, kids are coddled from far too young an age in hopes of a long shot so they miss out on skills that will actually help them down the road as they slide through getting passes in life due to unique athletic ability.

That failure manifests itself in college admissions but starts well before. On that I think we can agree.

 

[cane305]

Just another issue for programs, both prep and college, to work under, around or over.

I'm in favor of less barriers for young athletes, of any gender or sport, to their realize their full athletic and economical potential. We need a different system. One that recognizes athletic ability as a unique and valuable - or should I say uniquely valuable - and caters academic offerings to support it; rather than put up arbitrary roadblocks.

All so those who profit off young athletes can claim a halo of legitimacy and a false sense of moral superiority.

You're going to college. You should be qualified enough to squeak by college courses. Athletes get enough preferential treatment as is.

this is definitely true. however, raising GPA requirements by arbitrary 0.3, will not solve this problem.

 

[ball915]

Public high schools will become extremely well funded by SEC schools

 

[TheCaneShow]

LSU is going to really have to step up its student impersonator game now.

 

[Gatorhater]

NCAA is forcing incoming freshmen with GPA of 2.3 or lower
to redshirt. Interested in hearing how you guys feel this will
effect the recruiting landscape.

Buy stock in eraser and whiteout manufacturers.

 

[Gatorhater]

Just another issue for programs, both prep and college, to work under, around or over.

I'm in favor of less barriers for young athletes, of any gender or sport, to their realize their full athletic and economical potential. We need a different system. One that recognizes athletic ability as a unique and valuable - or should I say uniquely valuable - and caters academic offerings to support it; rather than put up arbitrary roadblocks.

All so those who profit off young athletes can claim a halo of legitimacy and a false sense of moral superiority.

You're going to college. You should be qualified enough to squeak by college courses. Athletes get enough preferential treatment as is.

There is a supposition to my argument that I'm afraid I didn't make explicit. Allow me to do so now. That it is college that athletes have to go to to further their highest economic potential is the problem insofar as that potential is directly tied to non-academic skill (i.e. athletic). At best, there is an inherent tension in the system. At worst, it is hypocrisy. If we reverse the roles and require, for example, engineering students to run a sub 4.6 40, the absurdity would be apparent. There would be justifiable outrage at requiring individuals who want to be students and academics to engage in non-academic assessments and evaluation.

To be clear Plz, I don't disagree that college athletes receive preferential treatment. However, that preferential treatment in my estimation is a systemic flaw of amateur athletics and underscores my argument.

Allow colleges to either develop programs honestly and in the open around athletic ability first or simply get out of the business of college sports.

You can make a strong argument to simply eliminate college and high school sports completely. Kids can get old school PE for health and fitness reasons. The entire tax supported system is now taxpayer supported corporate welfare professional sports. Our public school system is on the Prussian model and intended for the support of the state. Sports and such was to grow better soldiers. The system was never and is not for the economic benefit of the student. That said, it is nice that kids get a shot at making money, but nothing says they should not have to meet the same requirements other students. Truth is they are getting a better shot at making money and therefore should indeed work much harder that normal students.

 

[bransuperpower]

I wonder how many of you actually played football at a high level and kept a good gpa. a lot of time guys are putting in 12 hour days starting school at 8am and not getting home from football practice till around 8pm. not saying anything goes because i don't see the point of going to College classes and cant read or write but i think there should be more systems in play to help athletes and not just make it harder for them to be successful