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Don't disagree with him. South Florida kids seem to hold Miami in an impossible light. Sure, things are bad right now. But I look at a guy like Nunn and question why he decommitted. You're on the defensive side of the ball, that part for Miami is balling out right now and puts their players in the best position to win. When Miami starts losing, recruiting turns into a dumpster fire. But we've seen UF put together 2 4-win seasons within a 5-year span, and their recruiting takes a minor hit. And before anyone mentions their success, 2009 was Meyer's last year at UF and they haven't been that good since going on nearly a decade now.
 
orange&green84 said:
Don't disagree with him. South Florida kids seem to hold Miami in an impossible light. Sure, things are bad right now. But I look at a guy like Nunn and question why he decommitted. You're on the defensive side of the ball, that part for Miami is balling out right now and puts their players in the best position to win. When Miami starts losing, recruiting turns into a dumpster fire. But we've seen UF put together 2 4-win seasons within a 5-year span, and their recruiting takes a minor hit. And before anyone mentions their success, 2009 was Meyer's last year at UF and they haven't been that good since going on nearly a decade now.
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Facts!
 
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orange&green84 said:
Don't disagree with him. South Florida kids seem to hold Miami in an impossible light. Sure, things are bad right now. But I look at a guy like Nunn and question why he decommitted. You're on the defensive side of the ball, that part for Miami is balling out right now and puts their players in the best position to win. When Miami starts losing, recruiting turns into a dumpster fire. But we've seen UF put together 2 4-win seasons within a 5-year span, and their recruiting takes a minor hit. And before anyone mentions their success, 2009 was Meyer's last year at UF and they haven't been that good since going on nearly a decade now.
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100% facts. I hate to even mention it but I cant help but wonder how much this has to do with bags. Other teams can totally collapse and still pull big talent. We are sitting in the most fertile recruiting area and struggle to pull regardless. It can be a combination of kids craving the drama, wanting to get away from home, etc...but money talks.
 
SCarolina Ibis said:
Look at FSU. You'd think EVERYONE would have bailed on them by now. But only on us.
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Cause these kids have vivid memories of fsu winning a championship in 2013. Yeah yeah I know that was a different coach and whatever but still these kids don’t know dominant Miami
 
NateDogg said:
100% facts. I hate to even mention it but I cant help but wonder how much this has to do with bags. Other teams can totally collapse and still pull big talent. We are sitting in the most fertile recruiting area and struggle to pull regardless. It can be a combination of kids craving the drama, wanting to get away from home, etc...but money talks.
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Bags are for top 5 star recruits. The decommitments we are having is just for one reason, we are pure trash. The product on the field, the coaching and the locker room issues just killed all positive momentum and the negative environment and projection are respinsible of Mark Richt.
 
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jw410 said:
Definitely valid response...but I think they see the scheme and system and say no way I am playing in that for 4 years
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Except that Nunn is on the D side which has a good scheme and system. Crowley is a RB and look at the numbers of DJ/Homer, close to Elite even with a bad OL/QB combo.

Parents should be in their kids' ears about getting a good education. They should be looking at which coaches are stable even when they have bad years (not looking for the next step toward the NFL).
 
Seriously, just because a recruit is on defense what does that got to do with anything?! Y'all go play for a good defense and see how maddening it is to still lose a game bc of our offense. All that hard work for nothing. No matter where you play, Offense, Defense or Special teams we all care about winning no matter what.
 
I don't think kids are bailing because of the losses, it's because they can see it's amateur hour with the coaching staff. The awful play calling that Richt refuses to change or give up to an OC with a modern scheme, the ineptitude of QB coaching and how they handle the position in general letting Rosier, worst QB in P5 conferences and most G5 conferences, run with the starting role an not giving the younger talented guys a real fair shot. The OL coaching is garbage. The OL itself is garbage and subpar recruiting to fix that. These kids are not dumb, they can see we are headed in a steady decline with Richt's stubbornness to make any changes.
 
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orange&green84 said:
Don't disagree with him. South Florida kids seem to hold Miami in an impossible light. Sure, things are bad right now. But I look at a guy like Nunn and question why he decommitted. You're on the defensive side of the ball, that part for Miami is balling out right now and puts their players in the best position to win. When Miami starts losing, recruiting turns into a dumpster fire. But we've seen UF put together 2 4-win seasons within a 5-year span, and their recruiting takes a minor hit. And before anyone mentions their success, 2009 was Meyer's last year at UF and they haven't been that good since going on nearly a decade now.
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Great post by the best poster on Insight not Named @Stefan Adams @Roman Marciante or @Lance Roffers
 
I mean what he's saying is true but in college football you have to be able to win to be able to recruit and you have to be able to recruit to be able to win... unless you're just out-scheming everyone (lol).

The only time that doesn't apply is in a coaches first few years because they get that natural boost in recruiting and get the chance to sell building the program. After this years record and recruiting class, we're gonna be stuck in a rut until the 2020 class is ready to compete at a high level (assuming it doesn't fall apart as well) and pairing it with the 2018 class. 2019 is a lost cause.
 
Trajan Bandy has been saying he would be a Cane since his Kendall Kolts days. Some kids are built differently. Sucks to lose Crowley because he’d eat here but Nunn decomitting after two weeks just reflects poorly on him.
 
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The kids today are very fickle. If the kids that put our program on the map had the constant same mindset that a lot do today, this program doesn't get It's first National Title. On the other hand you have to win. That's just the way it is. Especially since we haven't won in a very long time.
 
Sorry MJ for the most part kids these days want to join winners. Sucks but it is what it is. The love for the U kids had is not the same anymore. Remember kids now weren’t alive or too young to remember us dominating. Finally Miami is a bandwagon town.
 
Cuban-Cane said:
They only hold us to that standard because there are only two extremes here. Either you or the people around you support the U or the complete opposite. Lot of roaches in these kids ears.
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This is true man, especially in Broward. I went to school in Broward and all the kids wanted to go to UF it made me sick. I know it was mostly because UM was a private school and tougher to get into, but by all the cool kids going to UF it made more UF fans because of their peers. I graduated in 09' and there were more kids reppin FSU and UF than Miami, I can't imagine how bad it is now that a lot of kids down there probably had brothers and sisters go to those two schools and are now fans of those programs because of it.
 
jw410 said:
Definitely valid response...but I think they see the scheme and system and say no way I am playing in that for 4 years
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Let’s keep it real. It’s how we losing. It’s not just b/c we’re losing.
 
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