Matchup of the Week: The New Miami vs. The Old Miami

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After underwhelming finishes in Miami's first two outings, the ever so optimistic Canes faithful already began to question what "The New Miami" really is. Because let's be real, losing to rival UF when the game was in hand on multiple occasions and then turning around to lose at Chapel Hill in the ACC opener to a team led by a true Freshman QB are results that are eerily similar to past regimes. Manny Diaz obviously would have loved to come away with wins to start the year and hit the ground running, but "The New Miami" was not created for the first 2 games or even for just the 2019 season. It is a foundation that is still being built and that Diaz hopes will stand for years to come. This team is littered with youth at crucial positions and led by a first time head coach. To assume there wouldn't be growing pains is just naive.

I believe the mark of The New Miami will be stated with how the team responds to finish the year. With the unfortunate start, I know of many past Canes teams in recent history that would have packed it in and deemed the season as a total loss. Last week's game against Bethune-Cookman was the start of 5 game homestand and the perfect setup for this team to catch its stride.

No offense to Central Michigan, but this game isn't about them. This week against the Chippewas is another opportunity for this young program to get closer to finding its identity. This is about the 2019 Hurricanes fending off past trends and starting a new one. Like Manny Diaz said in an interview with Zagacki, " We are the opponent." The Matchup of the week: The New Miami vs. The Old Miami.

This version of the Miami Hurricanes really is new, not just figuratively but quite literally too. New Head Coach, new offense, new quarterback and just a lot of new faces in general being asked to be major contributors, whether it be young guys stepping into larger roles or portal guys making a name for themselves on a new team. As a unit, this group is fresh, and it has shown on numerous occasions through the first 3 games. "This team has to learn how to win," said Diaz after the loss against UNC. That's one of the hardest things to do because there's really only way to really learn how to win and that is to well... win. In that process, the team will take its lumps as seen with the 0-2 start.

That's why this home stretch is so pivotal to The New Miami movement. Though it was a glorified scrimmage against Bethune-Cookman last week, it's still a dub at the end of the day. Central Michigan is better than Cookman, but its the same idea this weekend too. Execute, get off to a fast start and get another taste of victory. The next couple games after CMU are also very winnable and could go a long way in helping this team "learn how to win."

It was pretty much consensus that The Old Miami was held back by a lack of identity and consistency on offense. Three games in and Dan Enos has done a lot to erase those issues. Its evident that this offense is in the early stages of its evolution, and they have to become much better at finishing drives. The young o-line is still coming together, but there has been visible improvement every time they take the field. Enos has worked wonders with Jarren Williams, and there's no doubt that The New Miami has it's QB. Deejay Dallas, at more than 8 yards per carry, and the Miami running game has found its flow as well. The challenge now is consistency and progression. Enos and the offense has helped make Miami a more complete football team, and quite honestly, the offense has outperformed the defense for the better part of the first 3 games. That's definitely new.

One of the main things that flourished with the "Old Miami" was the attacking style opportunistic defense. Through 3 games, there is no question that the defense has taken a step back. The youth in the secondary is probably the most glaring issue. I'd argue that the individual talent with guys like Hall, Ivey, Blades, Frierson and even the young freshman, have a higher ceiling than the previous group. But the lack of experience is causing the group to play at a slower pace than their raw athletic ability may suggest.

These next couple games will also be pivotal for this group to come together and understand their roles within this defense. Simply put, the defense as a whole just has to play better and faster than they have to start the season. Though, "The New Miami" is looking to break new ground, this Miami defense needs to get back to its old ways in a hurry for this team to reach its full potential.

Central Michigan comes in at 2-1 with the 1 loss coming to another Power 5 opponent. 13th ranked Wisconsin beat the Chippewas to the tune of 61-0. The Hurricanes should be in store for a similar outcome. But like I said, this game isn't about the Chippewas. It is about the Canes. The Canes must use this the next stretch of games to continue to trend away from the old "disease" ridden Miami that Manny Diaz talks about. The young guys need to continue their progression. Overall, this team has started to lay the bricks for the foundation of the program that Diaz thinks about when he talks about The New Miami, but there is still bits and pieces of the Old Miami that seep through every now and then. This weekend is just another opportunity to rid themselves of those instances and further themselves from the past.
 
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People who thought we would roll out here as the 1987 Canes are on crack.

I wanna see how we finish. The "we can get this coach" thread maker should walk into oncoming traffic. We're on game 4.

Should we have beaten UF? Sure

Should we have beaten UNC? Sure

Am I happy about it? No

Eagerly awaiting the finish.
 
People who thought we would roll out here as the 1987 Canes are on crack.

I wanna see how we finish. The "we can get this coach" thread maker should walk into oncoming traffic. We're on game 4.

Should we have beaten UF? Sure

Should we have beaten UNC? Sure

Am I happy about it? No

Eagerly awaiting the finish.

On fire today.
 
People who thought we would roll out here as the 1987 Canes are on crack.

I wanna see how we finish. The "we can get this coach" thread maker should walk into oncoming traffic. We're on game 4.

Should we have beaten UF? Sure

Should we have beaten UNC? Sure

Am I happy about it? No

Eagerly awaiting the finish.
Might be your best post since ever. Couldn't agree more.
 
Yes, losing sucks especially how we lost, but in all honesty they weren't painful losses like we've experienced recently and yes, I agree there are no trophies for losing, but this is one of the rare times when I can say with confidence we should have won both games. As odd as it may sound I think we'll learn a good amount about the team and it's psyche tomorrow.
We're playing an a team we should beat handily, the old Miami would often take these types of games lightly and slog through, what will the new version do?
 
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Yes, losing sucks especially how we lost, but in all honesty they weren't painful losses like we've experienced recently and yes, I agree there are no trophies for losing, but this is one of the rare times when I can say with confidence we should have won both games. As odd as it may sound I think we'll learn a good amount about the team and it's psyche tomorrow.
We're playing an a team we should beat handily, the old Miami would often take these types of games lightly and slog through, what will the new version do?

When we got down 17 to 3 against UNC the last 15 years of **** told me we were losing by 45.

Didn't happen.
 
People who thought we would roll out here as the 1987 Canes are on crack.

I wanna see how we finish. The "we can get this coach" thread maker should walk into oncoming traffic. We're on game 4.

Should we have beaten UF? Sure

Should we have beaten UNC? Sure

Am I happy about it? No

Eagerly awaiting the finish.
What? A logical post? That doesn't belong here.
 
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Wait.

A well written and thought out post, that acknowledges the reality of a first-time, first-year coach with a mostly new staff, and the growing pains associated in that situation. Not to mention inordinate number of key positions being filled by inexperienced freshman, redshirt freshman, and sophomores.

Is this actually CIS? Where is the bring-back-botch crew, or the pick a washed-up-hack or coach-who’ll-never-come-here crew?

Maybe, just maybe, the logical position to take is that growing pains are to be expected, and we won’t know if this is the right staff and the right future just three short games into the season.

But that would be a too reasonable and mature approach for the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing social misfits that pollute this site.
 
This story will be similar to Jimbos at FSU. Take over, filter players, filter culture, explode after he has his players. Jimbo went 10-4 then 9-4 then **** on the ACC for a few years. I think we are looking at the same progression.

Except he was stacking top 5 classes and recruiting a heisman winner
 
After underwhelming finishes in Miami's first two outings, the ever so optimistic Canes faithful already began to question what "The New Miami" really is. Because let's be real, losing to rival UF when the game was in hand on multiple occasions and then turning around to lose at Chapel Hill in the ACC opener to a team led by a true Freshman QB are results that are eerily similar to past regimes. Manny Diaz obviously would have loved to come away with wins to start the year and hit the ground running, but "The New Miami" was not created for the first 2 games or even for just the 2019 season. It is a foundation that is still being built and that Diaz hopes will stand for years to come. This team is littered with youth at crucial positions and led by a first time head coach. To assume there wouldn't be growing pains is just naive.

I believe the mark of The New Miami will be stated with how the team responds to finish the year. With the unfortunate start, I know of many past Canes teams in recent history that would have packed it in and deemed the season as a total loss. Last week's game against Bethune-Cookman was the start of 5 game homestand and the perfect setup for this team to catch its stride.

No offense to Central Michigan, but this game isn't about them. This week against the Chippewas is another opportunity for this young program to get closer to finding its identity. This is about the 2019 Hurricanes fending off past trends and starting a new one. Like Manny Diaz said in an interview with Zagacki, " We are the opponent." The Matchup of the week: The New Miami vs. The Old Miami.

This version of the Miami Hurricanes really is new, not just figuratively but quite literally too. New Head Coach, new offense, new quarterback and just a lot of new faces in general being asked to be major contributors, whether it be young guys stepping into larger roles or portal guys making a name for themselves on a new team. As a unit, this group is fresh, and it has shown on numerous occasions through the first 3 games. "This team has to learn how to win," said Diaz after the loss against UNC. That's one of the hardest things to do because there's really only way to really learn how to win and that is to well... win. In that process, the team will take its lumps as seen with the 0-2 start.

That's why this home stretch is so pivotal to The New Miami movement. Though it was a glorified scrimmage against Bethune-Cookman last week, it's still a dub at the end of the day. Central Michigan is better than Cookman, but its the same idea this weekend too. Execute, get off to a fast start and get another taste of victory. The next couple games after CMU are also very winnable and could go a long way in helping this team "learn how to win."

It was pretty much consensus that The Old Miami was held back by a lack of identity and consistency on offense. Three games in and Dan Enos has done a lot to erase those issues. Its evident that this offense is in the early stages of its evolution, and they have to become much better at finishing drives. The young o-line is still coming together, but there has been visible improvement every time they take the field. Enos has worked wonders with Jarren Williams, and there's no doubt that The New Miami has it's QB. Deejay Dallas, at more than 8 yards per carry, and the Miami running game has found its flow as well. The challenge now is consistency and progression. Enos and the offense has helped make Miami a more complete football team, and quite honestly, the offense has outperformed the defense for the better part of the first 3 games. That's definitely new.

One of the main things that flourished with the "Old Miami" was the attacking style opportunistic defense. Through 3 games, there is no question that the defense has taken a step back. The youth in the secondary is probably the most glaring issue. I'd argue that the individual talent with guys like Hall, Ivey, Blades, Frierson and even the young freshman, have a higher ceiling than the previous group. But the lack of experience is causing the group to play at a slower pace than their raw athletic ability may suggest.

These next couple games will also be pivotal for this group to come together and understand their roles within this defense. Simply put, the defense as a whole just has to play better and faster than they have to start the season. Though, "The New Miami" is looking to break new ground, this Miami defense needs to get back to its old ways in a hurry for this team to reach its full potential.

Central Michigan comes in at 2-1 with the 1 loss coming to another Power 5 opponent. 13th ranked Wisconsin beat the Chippewas to the tune of 61-0. The Hurricanes should be in store for a similar outcome. But like I said, this game isn't about the Chippewas. It is about the Canes. The Canes must use this the next stretch of games to continue to trend away from the old "disease" ridden Miami that Manny Diaz talks about. The young guys need to continue their progression. Overall, this team has started to lay the bricks for the foundation of the program that Diaz thinks about when he talks about The New Miami, but there is still bits and pieces of the Old Miami that seep through every now and then. This weekend is just another opportunity to rid themselves of those instances and further themselves from the past.

lmfao as if this guy wasnt here the last four years as a major part of a failed regime.

“brick by brick” comes to mind.
 
This story will be similar to Jimbos at FSU. Take over, filter players, filter culture, explode after he has his players. Jimbo went 10-4 then 9-4 then **** on the ACC for a few years. I think we are looking at the same progression.

based on what?

Jimbo coached under a top 5 all time football coach, was an elite recruiter, and won a title as an assistant.

Manny Diaz was a journeyman DC who fielded exactly one good defense his whole career and got the job bc half the BOT are big donors to his daddy’s political career.
 
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Wait.

A well written and thought out post, that acknowledges the reality of a first-time, first-year coach with a mostly new staff, and the growing pains associated in that situation. Not to mention inordinate number of key positions being filled by inexperienced freshman, redshirt freshman, and sophomores.

Is this actually CIS? Where is the bring-back-botch crew, or the pick a washed-up-hack or coach-who’ll-never-come-here crew?

Maybe, just maybe, the logical position to take is that growing pains are to be expected, and we won’t know if this is the right staff and the right future just three short games into the season.

But that would be a too reasonable and mature approach for the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing social misfits that pollute this site.
If you’re gonna talk about me, I’d appreciate it if you would @ me, bro. I don’t have time to read every post on this site full of knuckle-dragging miscreants.
🤷‍♂️😊
 
Let's just go with this "The New Miami"...

At this point go at least 9-3. Preferably 10-2.

Showed growth and a wave of momentum building.

Then go to a solid bowl game and dominate, or close to it.

THEN DO IT next season if not better!


Then New is old and Old is new. Roll from this place on.
 
When i think of the old miami i think of five titles ..future first rounders....hall of famers....pro bowlers....best players in the world.....when i think of the new miami i think of nothing but jags with a few good players here and there....zero titles....1 coastal title....and i think of Donna Shalalalala who always said this is the new Miami. The new Miami is and has always been designed to kill the old miami.......IMO
 
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Wait.

A well written and thought out post, that acknowledges the reality of a first-time, first-year coach with a mostly new staff, and the growing pains associated in that situation. Not to mention inordinate number of key positions being filled by inexperienced freshman, redshirt freshman, and sophomores.

Is this actually CIS? Where is the bring-back-botch crew, or the pick a washed-up-hack or coach-who’ll-never-come-here crew?

Maybe, just maybe, the logical position to take is that growing pains are to be expected, and we won’t know if this is the right staff and the right future just three short games into the season.

But that would be a too reasonable and mature approach for the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing social misfits that pollute this site.
Yeah... mirrors my take on where the program is today, even after the moves that the coach has made during the offseason that were by consensus sound and proactive.
But the social misfits along with those degrading characteristics you talk about are really the people who actually would kick their dog if they have a bad day. They are the ones that see the glass half empty and rather would complain about everything in an obsessive compulsive manner. At work they were the ones that never were satisfied about anything and found like minded friends to eat lunch with or hang out with.
The botch crew here uses conjecture and fantasy to push a narrative of bullshiit that makes them feel like geniuses. The same with the other Messiahs that are brought up here... we for sure would be winning had they been hired they say.
Reading these posts can be very frustrating but on the bright side there is always some people that make sense to us... if not I’d be watching Hallmark with the wife instead.
 
[A]nd quite honestly, the offense has outperformed the defense for the better part of the first 3 games.

Defense:
- Total scoring defense: 35th
- 3rd down conversions: 5th
- First downs allowed: 31st
- Rushing defense: 8th
- Tackles for loss: 19th
- Total defense: 25th

Offense:
- Third down conversions: 121st
- Passing yards per completion: 89th
- Red zone offense: 113th
- Rushing offense: 60th
- Sacks allowed: 128th
- Total offense: 42nd

So does the “staff” at canesinsight just completely make **** up? Or are you all just a bunch of stoned retards promoting clubs and online gambling Ponzi schemes?

@Cory Grimes
@brock
@ddann
@CFDan
@Dan E. Dangerously
@DannyBoyCane69
@ThomasM
@Dannyboi305
@danmiami89
@DMoney

I @‘d all the Dans, Borks, and Thomases, so they can rush in here and throw tons of flacid eggplant in their mouths to protect their precious 0-2 offense.
 
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based on what?

Jimbo coached under a top 5 all time football coach, was an elite recruiter, and won a title as an assistant.

Manny Diaz was a journeyman DC who fielded exactly one good defense his whole career and got the job bc half the BOT are big donors to his daddy’s political career.
Thanks for your response. I care.
 
The New Miami, The Old Miami. Hogwash. There is only Good Miami and Bad Miami. Right now we are not very good.
 
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