Jackson pulls off upset

[Tito Benach]

Beat American Heritage today 39-23.

 

[UMJay]

how did Sony look?

 

[skyman]

how did Sony look?

Ehh, I said it before. Will say it again, I will give him the benefit of the doubt because when you watch his old film kid was AMAZING, so I dont want to seem so Harsh on a kid coming off a serious injury. But I want to see this amazing film that some guys have been hyping up from THIS YEAR. Because the times I have seen him he doesnt look the same, seems hesitant (which is understandable) Has speed but doesnt seem to turn the corner like before (which should come back in time) and he isnt juking guys like he used to.

If you took the numbers off the jerseys and said to someone who is the stud on that team after the game they would say that little kid Isaiah, kid played nearly every snap both ways, scored ALL their TDs, two deep passes and the opening kick. Sony was shutdown after some early runs by a undersized defense. They had to go exclusively to the pass because sony couldnt really get going. I could understand if AH took Jackson lightly but after they were down everyone was looking to Isaiah to make a play not Sony. Now again I dont want people to take it the wrong way like I am being hard on a guy coming off injury. I know that and understand, I hope that is the case and this was just a step to getting back to 100%, will be looking forward to how he looks in the spring.

 

[Hurrickaneof83]

how did Sony look?

Ehh, I said it before. Will say it again, I will give him the benefit of the doubt because when you watch his old film kid was AMAZING, so I dont want to seem so Harsh on a kid coming off a serious injury. But I want to see this amazing film that some guys have been hyping up from THIS YEAR. Because the times I have seen him he doesnt look the same, seems hesitant (which is understandable) Has speed but doesnt seem to turn the corner like before (which should come back in time) and he isnt juking guys like he used to.

If you took the numbers off the jerseys and said to someone who is the stud on that team after the game they would say that little kid Isaiah, kid played nearly every snap both ways, scored ALL their TDs, two deep passes and the opening kick. Sony was shutdown after some early runs by a undersized defense. They had to go exclusively to the pass because sony couldnt really get going. I could understand if AH took Jackson lightly but after they were down everyone was looking to Isaiah to make a play not Sony. Now again I dont want people to take it the wrong way like I am being hard on a guy coming off injury. I know that and understand, I hope that is the case and this was just a step to getting back to 100%, will be looking forward to how he looks in the spring.

The kid had no blocking all game. He still ran for over 100yds as much as he was getting hit as soon as he got the ball. Oline did absolutely nothing. I dont know how much juking ur expecting with two defenders on him when gets a handoff.

Qb Tyler Cogswell threw 3 ints including 2 in the fourth quarter and one was a pick six to kill the game.

 

[zone3cane]

I remember when LeSean McCoy went to Hargrave after coming off that knee injury in highschool.... The coaches their were saying he was out of shape and still trying to get healthy and Graig Cooper basically took the spotlight and ended up being a 5 star recruit.

Now who had the better CFB career????


..... basically Sony is going to be a beast once he is 100%.

 

[skyman]

how did Sony look?

Ehh, I said it before. Will say it again, I will give him the benefit of the doubt because when you watch his old film kid was AMAZING, so I dont want to seem so Harsh on a kid coming off a serious injury. But I want to see this amazing film that some guys have been hyping up from THIS YEAR. Because the times I have seen him he doesnt look the same, seems hesitant (which is understandable) Has speed but doesnt seem to turn the corner like before (which should come back in time) and he isnt juking guys like he used to.

If you took the numbers off the jerseys and said to someone who is the stud on that team after the game they would say that little kid Isaiah, kid played nearly every snap both ways, scored ALL their TDs, two deep passes and the opening kick. Sony was shutdown after some early runs by a undersized defense. They had to go exclusively to the pass because sony couldnt really get going. I could understand if AH took Jackson lightly but after they were down everyone was looking to Isaiah to make a play not Sony. Now again I dont want people to take it the wrong way like I am being hard on a guy coming off injury. I know that and understand, I hope that is the case and this was just a step to getting back to 100%, will be looking forward to how he looks in the spring.

The kid had no blocking all game. He still ran for over 100yds as much as he was getting hit as soon as he got the ball. Oline did absolutely nothing. I dont know how much juking ur expecting with two defenders on him when gets a handoff.

Qb Tyler Cogswell threw 3 ints including 2 in the fourth quarter and one was a pick six to kill the game.

I agree with you on the blocking aspect, but still... Dude is an all world back, make something happen. ALot of backs down here have faced some tough defenses come playoff time, you still have to step up. Jackson was kicking to Sony to avoid kicking to Isaiah, lol...


Just to add about the game, Jackson has to have been the WORST coached team to win a playoff game, they had atleast 8 offsides penalties (no exaggeration), they had delay of game on back to back plays (with no play ran!) on 2 different occasions. Wasted timeouts. just terrible. And they still won. SMH.

83 there was some in the stands saying #6 was a better qb and should have been used more rather than Tyler, was this just fans in the stands talk or is he a guy that they should have went with. They seem to only use him in the second half to do read options with Sony.

 

[Bird4um]

Sony didn't impress. Deeb looked ok. McKinsey dropped a ton of balls. Flowers looked good.

 

[DMoney]

Just to add about the game, Jackson has to have been the WORST coached team to win a playoff game, they had atleast 8 offsides penalties (no exaggeration), they had delay of game on back to back plays (with no play ran!) on 2 different occasions. Wasted timeouts. just terrible. And they still won. SMH.

+1000

I was talking to Peter about this at the Booker T game. I have NEVER seen a more poorly coached team than Jackson. They got a delay of game on the first play of the game! And their first offensive play of the second half. It was embarrassing. Flowers was visibly frustrated.

 

[TheSwagger1]

they had delay of game on back to back plays (with no play ran!) on 2 different occasions.

Wtf? How does that happen? They just sat there for 2 minutes without calling a play?

 

[Paranos]

How did mike deeb look, I still think UM is going to regret not offering and accepting his commitment. He looks like potential beast in the middle.

Go Canes

 

[skyman]

they had delay of game on back to back plays (with no play ran!) on 2 different occasions.

Wtf? How does that happen? They just sat there for 2 minutes without calling a play?

Lol, it was high school corching at its finest. they run 4 wide and dont huddle so when they call a play the wr on the far side come over to read the signals, the corches were struggling with whatever they wanted to run then they finally got the play in, first delay, so now its 3rd and 15. This is in the fourth when it 23-26 and AH is gaining momentum, I guess they are feeling the pressure and then they mark off the yardage and they want to change the play, they call them over again and then they line up, and they have a motion call in the play and the wr doesnt know, so flowers is telling him go in motion then that is the second. 3rd and 20. I think they still convert, lol.


highlights:

[video]http://sfhighschoolsports.com/videos/all/highlights-jackson-vs-american-heritage[/video]

 

[Canemang]

I got hammered for saying this a while back, but I'll say it again....Scarlett>>>>>>>>Michel

 

[Hurrickaneof83]

I got hammered for saying this a while back, but I'll say it again....Scarlett>>>>>>>>Michel

And u will get hammered for saying it again. Sony had more yards, better ypc average and more tds than scarlett on a season when people are saying he had a bad year. Scarlett's a great runningback but Sony is Elite! Take Scarlett second yr of hs and compare to Sony. Sony ran for nearly twice as many yards. Men lie, women lie, numbers dont lie!

 

[Hurrickaneof83]

how did Sony look?

Ehh, I said it before. Will say it again, I will give him the benefit of the doubt because when you watch his old film kid was AMAZING, so I dont want to seem so Harsh on a kid coming off a serious injury. But I want to see this amazing film that some guys have been hyping up from THIS YEAR. Because the times I have seen him he doesnt look the same, seems hesitant (which is understandable) Has speed but doesnt seem to turn the corner like before (which should come back in time) and he isnt juking guys like he used to.

If you took the numbers off the jerseys and said to someone who is the stud on that team after the game they would say that little kid Isaiah, kid played nearly every snap both ways, scored ALL their TDs, two deep passes and the opening kick. Sony was shutdown after some early runs by a undersized defense. They had to go exclusively to the pass because sony couldnt really get going. I could understand if AH took Jackson lightly but after they were down everyone was looking to Isaiah to make a play not Sony. Now again I dont want people to take it the wrong way like I am being hard on a guy coming off injury. I know that and understand, I hope that is the case and this was just a step to getting back to 100%, will be looking forward to how he looks in the spring.

The kid had no blocking all game. He still ran for over 100yds as much as he was getting hit as soon as he got the ball. Oline did absolutely nothing. I dont know how much juking ur expecting with two defenders on him when gets a handoff.

Qb Tyler Cogswell threw 3 ints including 2 in the fourth quarter and one was a pick six to kill the game.

I agree with you on the blocking aspect, but still... Dude is an all world back, make something happen. ALot of backs down here have faced some tough defenses come playoff time, you still have to step up. Jackson was kicking to Sony to avoid kicking to Isaiah, lol...


Just to add about the game, Jackson has to have been the WORST coached team to win a playoff game, they had atleast 8 offsides penalties (no exaggeration), they had delay of game on back to back plays (with no play ran!) on 2 different occasions. Wasted timeouts. just terrible. And they still won. SMH.

83 there was some in the stands saying #6 was a better qb and should have been used more rather than Tyler, was this just fans in the stands talk or is he a guy that they should have went with. They seem to only use him in the second half to do read options with Sony.

#6 is Torrance Gibson 6'4" 195lbs c/o 2015. He plays qb, wr and safety.

He is a good qb and can even be great but he lacks the footwork. He can be very accurate or just throw passes in the dirt. With great coaching, picture a left handed Geno Smith running a 10.8 100m. I think his best position at the next level is wr. With his speed, jumping ability he has great potential.

I think last night was a situation where the best qb is the next qb. If he would have helped, it would be because he wouldnt be afraid to run. That would have forced Jackson to stop blitzing. He hasnt gotten enough work on offense to make a difference in that game.

 

[DMoney]

I saw Gibson at the Miami camp and he looked like the best quarterback there, regardless of age.

 

[skyman]

how did Sony look?

Ehh, I said it before. Will say it again, I will give him the benefit of the doubt because when you watch his old film kid was AMAZING, so I dont want to seem so Harsh on a kid coming off a serious injury. But I want to see this amazing film that some guys have been hyping up from THIS YEAR. Because the times I have seen him he doesnt look the same, seems hesitant (which is understandable) Has speed but doesnt seem to turn the corner like before (which should come back in time) and he isnt juking guys like he used to.

If you took the numbers off the jerseys and said to someone who is the stud on that team after the game they would say that little kid Isaiah, kid played nearly every snap both ways, scored ALL their TDs, two deep passes and the opening kick. Sony was shutdown after some early runs by a undersized defense. They had to go exclusively to the pass because sony couldnt really get going. I could understand if AH took Jackson lightly but after they were down everyone was looking to Isaiah to make a play not Sony. Now again I dont want people to take it the wrong way like I am being hard on a guy coming off injury. I know that and understand, I hope that is the case and this was just a step to getting back to 100%, will be looking forward to how he looks in the spring.

The kid had no blocking all game. He still ran for over 100yds as much as he was getting hit as soon as he got the ball. Oline did absolutely nothing. I dont know how much juking ur expecting with two defenders on him when gets a handoff.

Qb Tyler Cogswell threw 3 ints including 2 in the fourth quarter and one was a pick six to kill the game.

I agree with you on the blocking aspect, but still... Dude is an all world back, make something happen. ALot of backs down here have faced some tough defenses come playoff time, you still have to step up. Jackson was kicking to Sony to avoid kicking to Isaiah, lol...


Just to add about the game, Jackson has to have been the WORST coached team to win a playoff game, they had atleast 8 offsides penalties (no exaggeration), they had delay of game on back to back plays (with no play ran!) on 2 different occasions. Wasted timeouts. just terrible. And they still won. SMH.

83 there was some in the stands saying #6 was a better qb and should have been used more rather than Tyler, was this just fans in the stands talk or is he a guy that they should have went with. They seem to only use him in the second half to do read options with Sony.

#6 is Torrance Gibson 6'4" 195lbs c/o 2015. He plays qb, wr and safety.

He is a good qb and can even be great but he lacks the footwork. He can be very accurate or just throw passes in the dirt. With great coaching, picture a left handed Geno Smith running a 10.8 100m. I think his best position at the next level is wr. With his speed, jumping ability he has great potential.

I think last night was a situation where the best qb is the next qb. If he would have helped, it would be because he wouldnt be afraid to run. That would have forced Jackson to stop blitzing. He hasnt gotten enough work on offense to make a difference in that game.

Wait, wait... You tell me this kid just needs footwork help, is 2015 recruit, is a great athlete and can throw obviously has great size for position and he should play wr?? Now I will take into account your extreme bias for all thing AH but you dont take a kid with the potential to be Geno smith and play him anywhere else but QB. QB is the most important position in football it completely changes your team. Look at Jackson with flowers, they might win 1 game without him this year.

Just thinking with a guy like Sony, next to him, McKenzie outside and that TE #22 it would be much harder to defend from a defensive standpoint. Not saying about this year as they had a senior they believed in but they need to go ALL IN with that kid, didnt know he was that young. There is a element he could bring that the other qb couldnt with getting out of the pocket when it breaks down and making plays. Put that kid at QB, let him gain confidence, open up the offense more and it will be better for all.

 

[User-4525]

How did mike deeb look, I still think UM is going to regret not offering and accepting his commitment. He looks like potential beast in the middle.

Go Canes

they never offered and he didn't want to go to miami..... it was Georgia Notre dame and fsu in his top three

 

[Canemang]

I got hammered for saying this a while back, but I'll say it again....Scarlett>>>>>>>>Michel

And u will get hammered for saying it again. Sony had more yards, better ypc average and more tds than scarlett on a season when people are saying he had a bad year. Scarlett's a great runningback but Sony is Elite! Take Scarlett second yr of hs and compare to Sony. Sony ran for nearly twice as many yards. Men lie, women lie, numbers dont lie!

And Ray Lewis III had more yards than Collins, does that make him better?

 

[Hurrickaneof83]

Ehh, I said it before. Will say it again, I will give him the benefit of the doubt because when you watch his old film kid was AMAZING, so I dont want to seem so Harsh on a kid coming off a serious injury. But I want to see this amazing film that some guys have been hyping up from THIS YEAR. Because the times I have seen him he doesnt look the same, seems hesitant (which is understandable) Has speed but doesnt seem to turn the corner like before (which should come back in time) and he isnt juking guys like he used to.

If you took the numbers off the jerseys and said to someone who is the stud on that team after the game they would say that little kid Isaiah, kid played nearly every snap both ways, scored ALL their TDs, two deep passes and the opening kick. Sony was shutdown after some early runs by a undersized defense. They had to go exclusively to the pass because sony couldnt really get going. I could understand if AH took Jackson lightly but after they were down everyone was looking to Isaiah to make a play not Sony. Now again I dont want people to take it the wrong way like I am being hard on a guy coming off injury. I know that and understand, I hope that is the case and this was just a step to getting back to 100%, will be looking forward to how he looks in the spring.

The kid had no blocking all game. He still ran for over 100yds as much as he was getting hit as soon as he got the ball. Oline did absolutely nothing. I dont know how much juking ur expecting with two defenders on him when gets a handoff.

Qb Tyler Cogswell threw 3 ints including 2 in the fourth quarter and one was a pick six to kill the game.

I agree with you on the blocking aspect, but still... Dude is an all world back, make something happen. ALot of backs down here have faced some tough defenses come playoff time, you still have to step up. Jackson was kicking to Sony to avoid kicking to Isaiah, lol...


Just to add about the game, Jackson has to have been the WORST coached team to win a playoff game, they had atleast 8 offsides penalties (no exaggeration), they had delay of game on back to back plays (with no play ran!) on 2 different occasions. Wasted timeouts. just terrible. And they still won. SMH.

83 there was some in the stands saying #6 was a better qb and should have been used more rather than Tyler, was this just fans in the stands talk or is he a guy that they should have went with. They seem to only use him in the second half to do read options with Sony.

#6 is Torrance Gibson 6'4" 195lbs c/o 2015. He plays qb, wr and safety.

He is a good qb and can even be great but he lacks the footwork. He can be very accurate or just throw passes in the dirt. With great coaching, picture a left handed Geno Smith running a 10.8 100m. I think his best position at the next level is wr. With his speed, jumping ability he has great potential.

I think last night was a situation where the best qb is the next qb. If he would have helped, it would be because he wouldnt be afraid to run. That would have forced Jackson to stop blitzing. He hasnt gotten enough work on offense to make a difference in that game.

Wait, wait... You tell me this kid just needs footwork help, is 2015 recruit, is a great athlete and can throw obviously has great size for position and he should play wr?? Now I will take into account your extreme bias for all thing AH but you dont take a kid with the potential to be Geno smith and play him anywhere else but QB. QB is the most important position in football it completely changes your team. Look at Jackson with flowers, they might win 1 game without him this year.

Just thinking with a guy like Sony, next to him, McKenzie outside and that TE #22 it would be much harder to defend from a defensive standpoint. Not saying about this year as they had a senior they believed in but they need to go ALL IN with that kid, didnt know he was that young. There is a element he could bring that the other qb couldnt with getting out of the pocket when it breaks down and making plays. Put that kid at QB, let him gain confidence, open up the offense more and it will be better for all.

I never said not to play him at qb in hs. I said it for college. Im not sure he has the mental make up to be a college qb. It has the wr personality.

Trust me, i wanted him to be the guy the whole time. But you need reps. Im not a fan of not playing a guy at the position for weeks and expecting him to run your offense. If he was the guy, this was a different team. I think the coaches had that mindset of "we have him for next year." Oddly enough, the starting qb has the BEST hands on the team and will probably end up playing TE in college for Arkansas. If u moved him there this year, and put Gibson as the starter....

 

[Hurrickaneof83]

How did mike deeb look, I still think UM is going to regret not offering and accepting his commitment. He looks like potential beast in the middle.

Go Canes

they never offered and he didn't want to go to miami..... it was Georgia Notre dame and fsu in his top three

He highly considered Miami. His number 1 was Georgia. When neither offered, he took a road trip with Sony. He visited ND, fell in love with opportunity and committed.