I can’t defend Manny

[Consigliere]

I gotta respectfully disagree with you. I think this is an incredibly easy problem to peg. It’s only hard for those who are unwilling to look objectively and critically at what we’ve done.

Since Coker we hired two guys with zero head coaching experience who were coordinators on failed staffs. We hired them because *delusional narcissism.*

We hired one guy who had been fired from his prior job, hadnt succeeded with all the resources at UGA, wasnt sure he wanted to coach naymore, wasnt an innovative football mind, and wanted to do t on thing (coordinator) that (a) he stunk at and (b) undermined the entire ‘ceo coach’ theory (which theory sucked, in any case).

We hired another guy who had one prior HC job, where he had a losing record 3 of 4 years and overall, and looked like he was progressing because his team dropped to a low D1 conference. This guy was a terrible fit for UM philosophically, culturally, schematically. He was not an innovatove mind on O or D. His D didn’t fit our recruiting base, either. And he didn’t value the job.

Why is this all so hard to peg? We have not hired a single qualified candidate in 20 years. If Miami fans were’t so emotionally invested in people woth Miami ties, this would be obvious.

[Please note you left out every atrocious and unnecessary extension that was given out during that time]

I don’t think Danny is being honest.

He knows exactly what the only real and relevant issue is at Miami. For some reason he isn’t acknowledging it.

 

[WhatTheHell]

You're deflecting. We're talking about Blake and Jenn. They're currently employed here. What more needs to be said?

[I apologize for the lack of brevity]

The following is an analysis of the Blake James era as it pertains to actual on the field performance from our football team. Although Blake James was appointed as interim athletic director in October, 2012, he wasn’t officially named athletic director until February, 2013.

I will not hold the results of the interim period against him, although they would further tarnish his tenure (we went 3-4 after he was appointed interim AD). In addition, since the 2019 season is hardly complete, I will not include those results in the following, although they would further tarnish his tenure. Discounting the interim period and this current season, we’re left with six full seasons to evaluate his performance.

The goal is to win more games. We’re not winning enough. I believe in accountability; I believe in logic and reasoning. I am using the actual results during his era and I am left at one conclusion. With that said, I am unclear how we arrived here or who is actually in charge.

• Position #1: Blake James has been fully in control since he was appointed athletic director; why would anyone consider allowing him to have more time?
• Position #2: Blake James doesn’t have control of the athletic department, if that is the case, what purpose does he serve? Why keep him?

Conclusion: Regardless of whether Blake was/is in control or not, we need to bring in a passionate and competent athletic director. This person should have autonomy/full control of the athletic department. It is of my opinion that the results are unlikely to change until we bring in this person. My hope is to explain to you that it doesn’t take a lot to field a better on the field performance. It isn’t talent or money that is holding us back, it is simply poor, illogical and irrational decision making and a lack of accountability.

Please note that I am not saying that by simply replacing the athletic director, with those attributes, we will be Clemson. I am simply saying that by bringing in the right person, we will field a much better on the field performance and we will win a lot more games.

The Blake James Era: The results of 78 Games between 2013-2018

Since 2013, we’ve played 78 football games. During that span, we’ve essentially had two head coaches: (1) Al Golden and (2) Mark Richt.

The results of those 78 football games have been pretty “consistent”…

Total Games Played: 78

Overall Record: 49-29 (63%)

Average Overall Record 8.2 - 4.8

Total Conference Games Played: 48

Overall Conference Record: 29-19 (60%)

Average Overall Conference Record: 4.8 - 3.2

Average Finish/Place in the Coastal: 2.7

No matter who we play, we’ve lost ~ 40% of our games. We’ve consistently finished in the middle of the Coastal Division and this division features a subpar group of teams. I examined those 29 losses and I came up with the following:

• 15 (51.7%) were to teams who finished the season unranked.
• 8 (27.6%) were to teams who finished the season ranked in the top 10.
• Our average margin of loss was 15.4 PPG.
• 19 (65.5%) were lost by at least 10 points.

As logic dictates, the better the opponent, the more difficult it is to win. I understand it is difficult to beat top 10 opponents, I can easily discount those 8 losses (this doesn’t mean I find it acceptable to lose those games). With that said, I would like to focus on these 15 losses to unranked teams because that is the point of this analysis.

A competent coach is able to put their players in the best position to succeed. A competent coach is able to limit mistakes. A competent coach is able to out coach inferior coaches and inferior teams. A competent coach is able to perform better in those 15 games. We haven’t had a competent coach during this era. We haven’t had a competent coach in a long time.

At the very least, we should be able to bring in a competent coach. At the very least, a competent coach should be able to win 70% of those 15 games. If we won 11 of those 15 games, we’re looking at an overall record of 60-18 (76.9%). Obviously, a competent coach gives us a better chance to win games against ranked opponents, but that isn’t the point. I am simply pointing out that we’re consistently losing to subpar teams and it is easy to see how we arrived here.

----------------

Everyone one in the athletic department MUST go. This is the real and only relevant issue. Coaches don't hire and extend themselves. They're hired by admin. These two are "self-inflicted cancer" and worse than anything the NCAA could ever do to us.

This post should be its own thread.

 

[Ethnicsands]

[Please note you left out every atrocious and unnecessary extension that was given out during that time]

I don’t think Danny is being honest.

He knows exactly what the only real and relevant issue is at Miami. For some reason he isn’t acknowledging it.

Where i disagree with you is i think he is being honest. He’s just unable to peel back the orange and green lenses and look objectively at the situation. He’s always been a homer. He knows it. We know it. He’s loyal and optimistic and enthusiastic. He keeps starting talent threads like he thinks brandon linder and flowers and seantrel are walking through the door tomorrow.

Danny is emotionally invested and optimistic and is having a hard time processing the ugly reality.

 

[simplycanes]

OK, it was fun for a minute, but now that the board has learned the name, Jennifer Strawley...

Before you guys get too obsessed with firing someone who will assuredly be employed by the university, focus your attention on Blake James. Between the two, if someone's head was to roll for costing the AD $ millions, it won't be her.

 

[Consigliere]

This post should be its own thread.

Feel free to go nuts.

 

[Consigliere]

OK, it was fun for a minute, but now that the board has learned the name, Jennifer Strawley...

Before you guys get too obsessed with firing someone who will assuredly be employed by the university, focus your attention on Blake James. Between the two, if someone's head was to roll for costing the AD $ millions, it won't be her.

Everyone must go.

 

[HurricaneHauk]

Bull****. Golden embarrassed us every chance he got. Putrid, putrid coach and no better than anyone

He beat UF and Ohio State at least

 

[Ethnicsands]

He beat UF and Ohio State at least

excuse mongering is for excuse mongerers.

 

[simplycanes]

Everyone must go.

Don't disagree, but she is not getting fired. That's a guarantee.

 

[Hurracanes]

And with that said, lock thread.

dsddcane may be my all time favorite poster. Bringing truth and facts to bear on excuse mongers eerywhere.

He’s the goat.

 

[Consigliere]

Don't disagree, but she is not getting fired. That's a guarantee.

She can clean toilets at Hecht. I don’t care.

Everyone MUST go and a new AD must be able to bring in who they want.

 

[Deleted member 13422]

I dont agree that mario wouldve been a bad hire BECAUSE I know the staff he was gonna surround himself with. We had a group chat going among all of us. That's all I'm gonna say on that. I understand the concerns with Mario's game day coaching much like I understood at the time the criticism butch would get for the same thing. But mario is still young and he is a monster recruiter. Surround him with the right support and hed be unstoppable. MOST coaches are nothing more or less than the staff they surround themselves with. I'm not even gonna say the names that were being tossed around for a.d. a couple of very interesting fairy tales atleast.

Let's look at some of his coordinators from the past. ( coley, geoff collins, satterfield, ponce, todd orlando) the staff he has now at Oregon is a really good staff.

 

[simplycanes]

She can clean toilets at Hecht. I don’t care.

Everyone MUST go and a new AD must be able to bring in who they want.

I don't even disagree that she is part of the failed structure here, but as one of maybe five people on here who knew who she was before an hour ago, I can assure you if your satisfaction is contingent upon her being terminated from the University, you better find a coping mechanism now.

 

[88]

He beat UF and Ohio State at least

UF domainted but just turned the ball over and it was Luke Fickell Ohio State that had a bad year. Give Manny 5 years and he’ll stumble into two accident wins too

 

[DMoney]

You're deflecting. We're talking about Blake and Jenn. They're currently employed here. What more needs to be said?

[I apologize for the lack of brevity]

The following is an analysis of the Blake James era as it pertains to actual on the field performance from our football team. Although Blake James was appointed as interim athletic director in October, 2012, he wasn’t officially named athletic director until February, 2013.

I will not hold the results of the interim period against him, although they would further tarnish his tenure (we went 3-4 after he was appointed interim AD). In addition, since the 2019 season is hardly complete, I will not include those results in the following, although they would further tarnish his tenure. Discounting the interim period and this current season, we’re left with six full seasons to evaluate his performance.

The goal is to win more games. We’re not winning enough. I believe in accountability; I believe in logic and reasoning. I am using the actual results during his era and I am left at one conclusion. With that said, I am unclear how we arrived here or who is actually in charge.

• Position #1: Blake James has been fully in control since he was appointed athletic director; why would anyone consider allowing him to have more time?
• Position #2: Blake James doesn’t have control of the athletic department, if that is the case, what purpose does he serve? Why keep him?

Conclusion: Regardless of whether Blake was/is in control or not, we need to bring in a passionate and competent athletic director. This person should have autonomy/full control of the athletic department. It is of my opinion that the results are unlikely to change until we bring in this person. My hope is to explain to you that it doesn’t take a lot to field a better on the field performance. It isn’t talent or money that is holding us back, it is simply poor, illogical and irrational decision making and a lack of accountability.

Please note that I am not saying that by simply replacing the athletic director, with those attributes, we will be Clemson. I am simply saying that by bringing in the right person, we will field a much better on the field performance and we will win a lot more games.

The Blake James Era: The results of 78 Games between 2013-2018

Since 2013, we’ve played 78 football games. During that span, we’ve essentially had two head coaches: (1) Al Golden and (2) Mark Richt.

The results of those 78 football games have been pretty “consistent”…

Total Games Played: 78

Overall Record: 49-29 (63%)

Average Overall Record 8.2 - 4.8

Total Conference Games Played: 48

Overall Conference Record: 29-19 (60%)

Average Overall Conference Record: 4.8 - 3.2

Average Finish/Place in the Coastal: 2.7

No matter who we play, we’ve lost ~ 40% of our games. We’ve consistently finished in the middle of the Coastal Division and this division features a subpar group of teams. I examined those 29 losses and I came up with the following:

• 15 (51.7%) were to teams who finished the season unranked.
• 8 (27.6%) were to teams who finished the season ranked in the top 10.
• Our average margin of loss was 15.4 PPG.
• 19 (65.5%) were lost by at least 10 points.

As logic dictates, the better the opponent, the more difficult it is to win. I understand it is difficult to beat top 10 opponents, I can easily discount those 8 losses (this doesn’t mean I find it acceptable to lose those games). With that said, I would like to focus on these 15 losses to unranked teams because that is the point of this analysis.

A competent coach is able to put their players in the best position to succeed. A competent coach is able to limit mistakes. A competent coach is able to out coach inferior coaches and inferior teams. A competent coach is able to perform better in those 15 games. We haven’t had a competent coach during this era. We haven’t had a competent coach in a long time.

At the very least, we should be able to bring in a competent coach. At the very least, a competent coach should be able to win 70% of those 15 games. If we won 11 of those 15 games, we’re looking at an overall record of 60-18 (76.9%). Obviously, a competent coach gives us a better chance to win games against ranked opponents, but that isn’t the point. I am simply pointing out that we’re consistently losing to subpar teams and it is easy to see how we arrived here.

----------------

Everyone one in the athletic department MUST go. This is the real and only relevant issue. Coaches don't hire and extend themselves. They're hired by admin. These two are "self-inflicted cancer" and worse than anything the NCAA could ever do to us.

Long way of saying we’ve been bad at football during Blake’s tenure. Everyone knows that. We were bad before he took over, too. In fact, the most expensive and successful coach of this terrible era (Richt) came under Blake’s watch.

That’s why this oversimplification is silly. We’ve sucked over a number of ADs, administrators and trustees. Richt was expensive. Shannon was cheap. Golden was a “forward-thinking” hire on the rise. They all failed.

I have no ties to the “admin.” I won’t pretend to meaningfully analyze Blake’s performance because I’m only familiar with one aspect of his job (the football program). My criticisms are specific. Why was the search rushed? The Temple job is not real leverage. We should’ve at least kicked the tires on a guy like Dino Babers. That’s an error in the process.

 

[Consigliere]

I don't even disagree that she is part of the failed structure here, but as one of maybe five people on here who knew who she was before an hour ago, I can assure you if your satisfaction is contingent upon her being terminated from the University, you better find a coping mechanism now.

I hate to break it to you. I was well aware of who she is and how she came here.

I am fully aware of the chit heads who make up the athletic department from Fat Jesse the liar to Craig "the Potato" Anderson.

Anyone who served under Blake, hired by Blake etc. must go.

 

[BS85]

Agree. Thats why i said babers and clausen. Neith are elite but lightyears better than what we hire.

I sometimes dream of Chris Peterson coaching here, running trains on FSU and the Gators

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

I sometimes dream of Chris Peterson coaching here, running trains on FSU and the Gators

Hes a qualified head coach. Would never happen. Lol

 

[simplycanes]

Long way of saying we’ve been bad at football during Blake’s tenure. Everyone knows that. We were bad before he took over, too. In fact, the most expensive and successful coach of this terrible era (Richt) came under Blake’s watch.

That’s why this oversimplification is silly. We’ve sucked over a number of ADs, administrators and trustees. Richt was expensive. Shannon was cheap. Golden was a “forward-thinking” here on the rise. They all failed.

I have no ties to the “admin.” I won’t pretend to meaningfully analyze Blake’s performance because I’m only familiar with one aspect of his job (the football program). My criticisms are specific. Why was the search rushed? The Temple job is not real leverage. We should’ve at least kicked the tires on a guy like Dino Babers. That’s an error in the process.

This part right here is what matters in all of this. That is 100% a Blake James decision. We can dig up anyone we want from the athletic director website and start hammering their email, but that break in the process is 100% on the athletic director and nobody else. If you are a program that thinks you can be leveraged and strong-armed by someone waiting to take a job at Temple, you will function accordingly. A real athletic director with balls would have looked at him and said, "Guess what? I can call you in six weeks and you'll still come back and take this job."

 

[DMoney]

I gotta respectfully disagree with you. I think this is an incredibly easy problem to peg. It’s only hard for those who are unwilling to look objectively and critically at what we’ve done.

Since Coker we hired two guys with zero head coaching experience who were coordinators on failed staffs. We hired them because *delusional narcissism.*

We hired one guy who had been fired from his prior job, hadnt succeeded with all the resources at UGA, wasnt sure he wanted to coach anymore, wasnt an innovative football mind, and wanted to do the one thing (coordinator) that (a) he stunk at and (b) undermined the entire ‘ceo coach’ theory (which theory sucked, in any case), and hired his unqualified son for a critical staff role. We hired him because *delusional narcissism.*

We hired another guy who had one prior HC job, where he had a losing record 3 of 4 years and overall, and looked like he was progressing because his team dropped to a low D1 conference. This guy was a terrible fit for UM philosophically, culturally, schematically. He was not an innovatove mind on O or D. His D didn’t fit our recruiting base, either. And he didn’t value the job. We hired him as a convulsive reaction because he seemed like the *anti-Radio.*

Why is this all so hard to peg? We have not hired a single qualified candidate in 20 years. If Miami fans were’t so emotionally invested in people with Miami ties, this would be obvious.

You are repeating the obvious. Of course we’ve picked the wrong guys. As I’ve said numerous times, none of those guys got HC jobs after they left here. That says it all.

But they all failed for different reasons and with different “admins.” You loved the Golden hire until you didn’t. Me too. We all know the result- we’ve hired bad coaches. The hard part is figuring out why. I don’t have the answer.