Honest Inquiry

LexZapata

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What are the honest issues of running a 3-4 and a 4-3 interchangeably, but with Wyche at NT, Chickillo and Pierre switching in and out at DT, Kamalu at true end, McCord at rush end sliding back to Jack in the 3-4, Kirby playing Will and Weak ILB in 3-4, Perryman playing Mike and Strong ILB in 3-4, Figueroa playing Sam and Strong OLB in 3-4, but the snake of interlocking, interchangeable pieces continues, at this stage what about rovers and nickelbacks for 4-2-5's and 3-3-5's, I see Dallas Crawford as an excellent Nickel playing outside boundary who also deserves time at Strong, laying the wood in the box and defending passes (23 INT's in HS), plus Gayot could get time, sliding from Will and WOLB to Strong Safety, plus Darrion Owens could play from Free Safety to Defensive End. We have versatile pieces! Jermaine Grace could go from speedy OLB to Rover type rolling deep in coverage for picks. The true DB's, the CB's will be Howard and Gunter with Burns being first off the bench and hopefully getting some play at Safety as well. Then Rayshawn Jenkins I think earned a spot to start and Bush and Carter can share time at Strong. Kiy Hester getting in at both I hope.

But what are the issues? Other than a few tweeks in certain players amongst the fan base, because not everybody can agree obviously, why don't we just play this? We have the athletes, we don't have to necessarily play to Dorito's bvllsh!t scheme. Chickillo sliding inside because of the weight too unreasonable? Kamalu showing out as a true end not possible? Wyche not being a best and leading the charge? Disagree on a rush specialist DE (McCord, AQM, Trent, etc)? Think no LB's other than Perryman step the fvck up? Still think the secondary's play is gonna be way too sloppy for the talent back there? What are my fellow fan's hesitations in going all in and believing this team can make something of this season this year with a solid defense and man-to-man aggression at every level, Hurricane Heart if you will. The defense could be solid with these players and with like 4 QB's, money at wideout and solid stable of RB's with a good line as always and potential breakout TE's and the return specialists (Coley, Burns, Duke occasionally), we could be a money team! We could beat the coastal, VT, UNC, NC State, Pitt, BC, Duke, Wake, Syracuse, and I even believe this team playing well further into the season could give FSU a run for their money, and I **** sure believe we can figure **** out opening night against L'Ville. We're a different team now. And so are they.
 
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Chickillo has played a lot of DT in his 3 years and he has been terrible. At the start of last years season, he invariably played DT in our pass rush package, but he was so ineffective that Kamalu replaced him in the last third of the season. I don't think we are going to play a conventional 3/4 this year. Last year we almost never did.
 
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whatever we are supposed to be running...let's be dedicated to that. Defensive staff seems indecisive to me.
 
Who's in favor of benching Chickillo? Too slow at DE, apparently sucks at DT, why not play Kamalu, Wyche, Pierre, McCord/AQM as front 4
 
I agree. Either he's able to hold tough at DT or be replaced. We have upgraded at DE so he's at best the 4th best at that position. We can always use another DT.
 
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whatever we are supposed to be running...let's be dedicated to that. Defensive staff seems indecisive to me.

I think this the biggest problem we are having right now. We have no identity. Staff needs to pick one stick to it and recruit for it. If you ask Golden what we are he will say were multiple with a 4-3 base but our recruiting says otherwise. A guy like Tyqic McCord should be our star/buck rushing the passer with the occasional drop back but it hasn't been necessarily put in stone as his role on this team. Guy like Chad Thomas what exactly is gonna be? DE? OLB? I couldn't tell you.
 
whatever we are supposed to be running...let's be dedicated to that. Defensive staff seems indecisive to me.

I think this the biggest problem we are having right now. We have no identity. Staff needs to pick one stick to it and recruit for it. If you ask Golden what we are he will say were multiple with a 4-3 base but our recruiting says otherwise. A guy like Tyqic McCord should be our star/buck rushing the passer with the occasional drop back but it hasn't been necessarily put in stone as his role on this team. Guy like Chad Thomas what exactly is gonna be? DE? OLB? I couldn't tell you.

do you think that is the main reason our defense resembles a turnstile?
 
I believe if we can even out the talent across the line, Chick will excel. I cannot give you a reply, because I really have no freakin clue what we do on defense.
 
What are the honest issues of running a 3-4 and a 4-3 interchangeably, but with Wyche at NT, Chickillo and Pierre switching in and out at DT, Kamalu at true end, McCord at rush end sliding back to Jack in the 3-4, Kirby playing Will and Weak ILB in 3-4, Perryman playing Mike and Strong ILB in 3-4, Figueroa playing Sam and Strong OLB in 3-4, but the snake of interlocking, interchangeable pieces continues, at this stage what about rovers and nickelbacks for 4-2-5's and 3-3-5's, I see Dallas Crawford as an excellent Nickel playing outside boundary who also deserves time at Strong, laying the wood in the box and defending passes (23 INT's in HS), plus Gayot could get time, sliding from Will and WOLB to Strong Safety, plus Darrion Owens could play from Free Safety to Defensive End. We have versatile pieces! Jermaine Grace could go from speedy OLB to Rover type rolling deep in coverage for picks. The true DB's, the CB's will be Howard and Gunter with Burns being first off the bench and hopefully getting some play at Safety as well. Then Rayshawn Jenkins I think earned a spot to start and Bush and Carter can share time at Strong. Kiy Hester getting in at both I hope.

But what are the issues? Other than a few tweeks in certain players amongst the fan base, because not everybody can agree obviously, why don't we just play this? We have the athletes, we don't have to necessarily play to Dorito's bvllsh!t scheme. Chickillo sliding inside because of the weight too unreasonable? Kamalu showing out as a true end not possible? Wyche not being a best and leading the charge? Disagree on a rush specialist DE (McCord, AQM, Trent, etc)? Think no LB's other than Perryman step the fvck up? Still think the secondary's play is gonna be way too sloppy for the talent back there? What are my fellow fan's hesitations in going all in and believing this team can make something of this season this year with a solid defense and man-to-man aggression at every level, Hurricane Heart if you will. The defense could be solid with these players and with like 4 QB's, money at wideout and solid stable of RB's with a good line as always and potential breakout TE's and the return specialists (Coley, Burns, Duke occasionally), we could be a money team! We could beat the coastal, VT, UNC, NC State, Pitt, BC, Duke, Wake, Syracuse, and I even believe this team playing well further into the season could give FSU a run for their money, and I **** sure believe we can figure **** out opening night against L'Ville. We're a different team now. And so are they.

A lot of the scenarios you present in the first "paragraph", we already incorporate as a defense. We switch in and out of even and odd fronts.

As for the bolded ... I'm not sure what you are suggesting. As fans, I'm not sure we can override the DC and call the game from the stands... so i guess thats why we don't do that. We are fans and D'onofrio is the DC.
 
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I think our problem is we have piece wised together a collection of great talent that doesn't have enough playing time under their belts (as a whole) on defense. I think we'll be okay at CB. But at Saftey, both Crawford and Carter have no starts under their belts. At LB, Kirby, Figs, and Grace lack gameday experience. At DT, we are relying on 2 JUCO transfers. It takes time for a defense to gel at each unit and as a whole. We've got the talent, it just a matter of how long before they play as a complete unit.
 
I believe if we can even out the talent across the line, Chick will excel. I cannot give you a reply, because I really have no freakin clue what we do on defense.

Neither does Dorito.

And that's our problem.

LOL...they post one thing on the website (4-3), they recruit another way (3-4), they boast about playing the (3-4), most of the time they play it looks like a (4-3) to me. It's crazy.
 
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