Haven't seen anyone mention this yet.......

[Marcelo2988]

I know this is one small issue from a completely awful performance from start to finish and other things seem to matter more right now, but what I haven't seen anyone mention was the awful clock management at the end of the first half.

We're down 24-3 and we have about 1:20 to go down the field and possibly score a touchdown to make it a respectable 24-10. We also would receive first in the 2nd half. Instead of calling a timeout after the first play we run, we run an inexplicable 30+ seconds off the clock throughout the drive by not calling timeouts and of course when we get inside their 10 yardline we don't have time to go for the endzone and have to settle for a field goal.

This made me furious and reminded me of how I used to feel every game with Shannon's clock management and poorly called timeouts. It was just very frustrating to watch.

You play to win the game and this soft mindset of running out the clock to go into halftime down 21 points was sad to see. It was the first time I have ever questioned Golden on a decision and found myself doubting if he can get us back to national prominence throughout the rest of the game.

Someone please give me a positive from this game because I just don't see it right now.

 

[CanesAreAble]

This was covered in the gameday thread.

It was horrendous clock management. We ran one play between 1:42 and 1:00.

 

[WhoDat]

You mentioned it another thread already too

It's crazy how it took such an *** whooping like what UM received today to bring the best out of our posters. All solid posts and great discussion. Some of you have made great points about Golden and I hope they are accurate assessments. Today was the first time I ever really doubted Golden and asked myself if this is the guy to take us back to national prominence.

What I haven't seen anyone mention was the awful clock management at the end of the first half. We're down 24-3 and we have about 1:20 to go down the field and possibly score a touchdown to make it a respectable 24-10. We also would receive first in the 2nd half. Instead of calling a timeout we run an inexplicable 30+ seconds off the clock and of course when we get inside their 10 yardline we don't have time to go for the endzone and settle for a field goal.

This made me furious and reminded me of how I used to feel every game with Shannon's clock management and poorly called timeouts. It was just very frustrating to watch.

We talked about it during the game thread. My complete assumption is that he was literally scared to let KState get the ball back...again. They even ran the ball before they realized how easily they could move the ball down the middle of the field. My biggest fear is that they're afraid to look bad and allow others to perceive them as failures. The irony is that they looked terrible today using that exact approach. I hope he adjusts. We need more aggression. What's the big deal between losing 66-13 and 52-13? If it meant giving us a chance to be aggressive, like we were on the play that Mcgee got the INT (we forced a quicker throw), count me in.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

was just about to start a post about this.
hopefully this is not a sign of things to come but the entire staff today seemed completely out of it for whatever reason.

 

[DeadPoets]

Yawn - Golden has proven to be a very good clock manager in his short career here. This was ONE drive, on the road, against top 20 team, with a litter of true a$$ freshmen in that no huddle. The players were confused. We didn't need a timeout... we needed to let the guys work it out.

I was an assistant for a Hall of Fame D1 JUCO basketball coach in Texas. We used OOC games to throw everything at our guys.
We'd be on the road and the opposing team would go on a 10-0 or 12-0 run and he'd just stare at em when they looked to the sideline. The players expected to be bailed out and he said, "fuvck em... let em figure it out." And as a young asst I thought it was crazy. But I would later realize the genius behind it. He played mental games with his guys all the time. (Golden does too - only the strong surive that **** - look what it's already doing for Eddie Johnson - look what it did for Streeter, Jacory, Morris, etc)

For the record this coach has 2 national champsionships and 1 year went 34-0 (in the SEC of JUCO basketball).

My point is I think Golden realizes one game isn't decided this program's future (it never does). I just HOPE that the plan they have (throwing freshmen to the fire, & throwing the entire playbook at them) will resonante with the defense at some point. The offense isn't too far from being there (1 bruiser RB and some strength gains)... but the defense is in shambles.

 

[Marcelo2988]

Yawn - Golden has proven to be a very good clock manager in his short career here. This was ONE drive, on the road, against top 20 team, with a litter of true a$$ freshmen in that no huddle. The players were confused. We didn't need a timeout... we needed to let the guys work it out.

I was an assistant for a Hall of Fame D1 JUCO basketball coach in Texas. We used OOC games to throw everything at our guys.
We'd be on the road and the opposing team would go on a 10-0 or 12-0 run and he'd just stare at em when they looked to the sideline. The players expected to be bailed out and he said, "fuvck em... let em figure it out." And as a young asst I thought it was crazy. But I would later realize the genius behind it. He played mental games with his guys all the time. (Golden does too - only the strong surive that **** - look what it's already doing for Eddie Johnson - look what it did for Streeter, Jacory, Morris, etc)

For the record this coach has 2 national champsionships and 1 year went 34-0 (in the SEC of JUCO basketball).

My point is I think Golden realizes one game isn't decided this program's future (it never does). I just HOPE that the plan they have (throwing freshmen to the fire, & throwing the entire playbook at them) will resonante with the defense at some point. The offense isn't too far from being there (1 bruiser RB and some strength gains)... but the defense is in shambles.

I get your point, but you try to win every game you play. You don't say "Oh let the freshmen learn and we'll give up a chance to score a TD so this could benefit us in the future."

To me that's nonsense. It was awful clock management and you're right. Golden has been relatively solid with clock management in his short career here, but what I saw before the first half was Shannonesque. I'm trying to justify it to myself and I can't find a good reason.

 

[Marcelo2988]

You mentioned it another thread already too

It's crazy how it took such an *** whooping like what UM received today to bring the best out of our posters. All solid posts and great discussion. Some of you have made great points about Golden and I hope they are accurate assessments. Today was the first time I ever really doubted Golden and asked myself if this is the guy to take us back to national prominence.

What I haven't seen anyone mention was the awful clock management at the end of the first half. We're down 24-3 and we have about 1:20 to go down the field and possibly score a touchdown to make it a respectable 24-10. We also would receive first in the 2nd half. Instead of calling a timeout we run an inexplicable 30+ seconds off the clock and of course when we get inside their 10 yardline we don't have time to go for the endzone and settle for a field goal.

This made me furious and reminded me of how I used to feel every game with Shannon's clock management and poorly called timeouts. It was just very frustrating to watch.

We talked about it during the game thread. My complete assumption is that he was literally scared to let KState get the ball back...again. They even ran the ball before they realized how easily they could move the ball down the middle of the field. My biggest fear is that they're afraid to look bad and allow others to perceive them as failures. The irony is that they looked terrible today using that exact approach. I hope he adjusts. We need more aggression. What's the big deal between losing 66-13 and 52-13? If it meant giving us a chance to be aggressive, like we were on the play that Mcgee got the INT (we forced a quicker throw), count me in.

**** I hate it when I forget I just posted something 5 minutes earlier in another thread.....

 

[LexCane55]

It looked like we didnt think we were going to move the ball and we wanted to run clock

That and defering to me were two dumb decisions