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OzarCaneSaw

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I read another apologist porster blaming the performance of the offense for the **** poor performance of Doh'rito's defense. So, I looked up where our offense ranked in comparison to Duke and VaTech. Along with our defense.

Our total offense 41st
Our total defense 72nd

Duke's total offense 63rd
Duke's total defense 53rd

VaTech's total offense 97th
VaTech's total defense 4th

So, we actually have the best offense out of the three, yet we have the worst defense. Kind of blows a hole in the theory that if our offense would just do a better job, our defense would be better. ****, VaTech has a ****** offense and they've got the 4th best D in cfb.


If you look at scoring offense/defense it confirms these numbers. We have the best scoring offense but the worst scoring defense.

Our scoring offense 28th
Our scoring defense 55th

Duke's scoring offense 34th
Duke's scoring defense 36th

VaTech's scoring offense 90th
VaTech's scoring defense 9th
 
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The point that you are omitting are Time of possession/# of plays against our D/ an d offensive 3rd down conversions.
 
So how many three and outs? They provide the opponent with more scoring opportunities against our admittedly horrible defense.
 
Or the three straight turnovers in the Va Tech game, or the offense only scoring 23 points which is exactly 2 td and 3 fg in Duke territory, or the third down inefficiency of the offense, or our senior qb who was supposed to take the next step actually playing worse this year than last. All those factors does not help a defense who lacks playmakers in the front 7 who is still having to field a bunch of"Jeff Poppoviches", a defense who any same logical rational person knew was going to be mediocre this year, and HISTORY shows if you have a mediocre defense you will have **** games and even more so when the supposed strength of your team has been a liability

But let's throw rational thought out the window, continue to bash away all you football experts who know all the ins and outs of college and NFL football
 
duppy03 said:
The point that you are omitting are Time of possession/# of plays against our D/ an d offensive 3rd down conversions.
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Good point, BUT if the defense ever forced a punt, they would find out that they can get off the field that way too.
 
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turnovers in VT killed us....Duke was better...they outcoached and outplayed us let it go
 
It hurts my heart to believe that Va Tech has the 90th ranked scoring offense and they put up ridiculous numbers on us

Man I just can't accept that man...Pull up the stat of how much yards we have giving up in the last 5 games

UVA has the 106th ranked offense are you kidding me and they got almost 500 yards against us and had more production
then we had those numbers are just way too lopsided

You have to find a way to score and defend...both sides of the ball have wholes that need to be fixed. The best teams
do it...If you can't score with our offense something is wrong...I understand Stephen's issues and that Duke is not there
but dude really UVA put up more numbers against us on Senior day that's flat out disgusting I think we only had 3 first downs
in the first half...

Man please don't try to flatter me with this foolishness. Watching Miami on Saturdays truly disturbs me we just look completely
sloppy and disorganized...And Al says that we counter punched vs UVA...does he watch the same games I watch
AL needs to stop bringing all the projects in and quit mismanaging this roster rotating all the bodies on each line is unacceptable
How is clements not getting more reps he has been getting chunks of yardage every time in the game...
 
Quit posting the same **** for the umpteenth time.

VT - we lost, they scored more points, we did not score enough. Blame it on the coach, the fumbles, the D, the O or the rain, but we lost and the game was a month ago.

Duke - we lost - our Defense did not stop them and our offense could not sustain enough drives to keep us in the game. Stop looking at Duke like they are the good ole Duke of years past. They have a pretty good coach and the team is doing well on offense. Duke doesn't beat Miami in Football. I know I know. But Miami doesn't beat Duke in basketball. Times change and we need to improve.

Move on.
 
Gatorhater said:
duppy03 said:
The point that you are omitting are Time of possession/# of plays against our D/ an d offensive 3rd down conversions.
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Good point, BUT if the defense ever forced a punt, they would find out that they can get off the field that way too.
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They forced 6 punts and 4 TOs vs Virginia.
Our offense against 104th ranked Virginia's defense. 304 yards, 7 three and outs, 11 first downs, these were the TOP of each offensive possession in the Virginia game.
:10, :16, :30, :40, :40, :49, 1:14, 1:25, 1:40, 1:55, 2:27, 3:34, 3:48
6 possessions less than :49
10 possessions less than 1:55
And people wonder how we gave up 483 yards in the game.

VT Game
Offensive Possessions-:29, :45, :50, 1:04, 1:13, 1:21, 1:21, 1:57, 3:16, 3:45, 4:31---8 under 1:57 + 2 special teams TOs

Duke Game
We won TOP, had 565 yards, 5-15 on 3rd down, only scored 23 points on offense, Defense played bad and we lost.

FSU Game
Offensive Possessions-:14, 1:03, 1:35, 1:38, 1:43, 1:45, 1:56, 2:10, 2:19, 2:59, 4:05---7 under 1:45

For the year, the offense is 86th in 3rd down conversions, 89th in first downs, 71st in red zone offense, 119th in offense TOP
117 of 197 passes completed are for 20 yards or more. 80 passes 0-19 yards.

Does any of this excuse the defense of playing badly, no, but the offense is doing them no favors.
 
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The sad thing is Al actually calls Pitt explosive

Seriously that does not invoke swagger it only psychologically causes players to play down
To their level of competition I believe in respecting the opponent but when we get on the field I want to
Disrespect the opponent by any means necessary
 
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Angry Ibis said:
Quit posting the same **** for the umpteenth time.

VT - we lost, they scored more points, we did not score enough. Blame it on the coach, the fumbles, the D, the O or the rain, but we lost and the game was a month ago.

Duke - we lost - our Defense did not stop them and our offense could not sustain enough drives to keep us in the game. Stop looking at Duke like they are the good ole Duke of years past. They have a pretty good coach and the team is doing well on offense. Duke doesn't beat Miami in Football. I know I know. But Miami doesn't beat Duke in basketball. Times change and we need to improve.

Move on.
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Sure. As soon as the Doh'rito fluffers stop blaming the offense for his ineptness and ****-for-brains defensive scheme. When you actually admit that you are playing what basically amounts to a prevent defense and you're willing to give up yards, your opponents are going to light it up against you. Because any coach worth his salt knows that if he can get 500 yards of offense, there's a good chance he's gonna win that game.
 
QuadCityCane said:
Gatorhater said:
duppy03 said:
The point that you are omitting are Time of possession/# of plays against our D/ an d offensive 3rd down conversions.
Click to expand...

Good point, BUT if the defense ever forced a punt, they would find out that they can get off the field that way too.
Click to expand...

They forced 6 punts and 4 TOs vs Virginia.
Our offense against 104th ranked Virginia's defense. 304 yards, 7 three and outs, 11 first downs, these were the TOP of each offensive possession in the Virginia game.
:10, :16, :30, :40, :40, :49, 1:14, 1:25, 1:40, 1:55, 2:27, 3:34, 3:48
6 possessions less than :49
10 possessions less than 1:55
And people wonder how we gave up 483 yards in the game.

VT Game
Offensive Possessions-:29, :45, :50, 1:04, 1:13, 1:21, 1:21, 1:57, 3:16, 3:45, 4:31---8 under 1:57 + 2 special teams TOs

Duke Game
We won TOP, had 565 yards, 5-15 on 3rd down, only scored 23 points on offense, Defense played bad and we lost.

FSU Game
Offensive Possessions-:14, 1:03, 1:35, 1:38, 1:43, 1:45, 1:56, 2:10, 2:19, 2:59, 4:05---7 under 1:45

For the year, the offense is 86th in 3rd down conversions, 89th in first downs, 71st in red zone offense, 119th in offense TOP
117 of 197 passes completed are for 20 yards or more. 80 passes 0-19 yards.

Does any of this excuse the defense of playing badly, no, but the offense is doing them no favors.
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what is the D overall in third down conversions? they both go in hand in hand. the offense not being able to buy a third down conversion and the defense not being able to get stops on third downs.
 
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they should change the title of this board from "Eye in the Sky" to "Shoot Me in the Mother****ing Face Over and Over and Over...."
 
Our stats are skewed so one sided based on 3 absolute scrubs we played non-conference, and usually a good Florida team that is awful. We are nowhere near what the stats say including those teams, either offensively or defensively. . We have a long way to go. Hope I am around to see it, but not betting on it.
 
Defense can't get off the field and it's the offenses fault LOL

In the past 4 games opponents are 35-62 on 3rd down against us. That is 56% conversion rate which would put us as the 2nd worse 3rd down defense in the country if it was over the entire season. We are currently 80th. Quit with the excuses and stop some **** body.
 
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