Film Experts — can you breakdown our busted coverage plays?

[grover]

@Lance Roffers @Memnon et al.,

I was baffled at how Cal was able to fool our secondary time and time again. It feels like this is a carry over from Va Tech. Would love to get more insight here.

Secondary question— realizing we don’t have first rounders in our backfield, are they talented enough that this shouldn’t be happening?

 

[ageezy]

@Lance Roffers @Memnon et al.,

I was baffled at how Cal was able to fool our secondary time and time again. It feels like this is a carry over from Va Tech. Would love to get more insight here.

Secondary question— realizing we don’t have first rounders in our backfield, are they talented enough that this shouldn’t be happening?

not lance but the touchdown against dyoni hill was all on hill ... mario mentioned as much this morning ... they were playing thirds and dioni didn't sink to his third and instead bit on the screen ...

the deep play against powell was a result of two weeks prep, they got the look they wanted as powell was responsible for a slot guy, the cal kid just got the better of meesh, plain and simple ... in those alignments you gotta hope the dline helps with pressure, but cal rolled the pocket ... they schemed us up

the ott touchdown was cover 0 with a bunch of coverage busts ... plus ott stepped out of bounds

 

[grover]

not lance but the touchdown against dyoni hill was all on hill ... mario mentioned as much this morning ... they were playing thirds and dioni didn't sink to his third and instead bit on the screen ...

the deep play against powell was a result of two weeks prep, they got the look they wanted as powell was responsible for a slot guy, the cal kid just got the better of meesh, plain and simple ... in those alignments you gotta hope the dline helps with pressure, but cal rolled the pocket ... they schemed us up

the ott touchdown was cover 0 with a bunch of coverage busts ... plus ott stepped out of bounds

Thanks @ageezy. On the Hill play, though, how was it we had no cover when he got beat? Was the Ott one the short screen where the guy had an escort down the sidelines and no one could touch him? That was crazy.

 

[ageezy]

Thanks @ageezy. On the Hill play, though, how was it we had no cover when he got beat? Was the Ott one the short screen where the guy had an escort down the sidelines and no one could touch him? That was crazy.

on the TE play hill was the deep guy ... it looked to be thirds ... oj is bailing to his third, meesh is already covering the center of the field, hill sould have bailed to his third, but instead he had bad eye discipline ... you even see harris pointing to where he should be as harris has the flat covered

 

[CANESCANES]

on the TE play hill was the deep guy ... it looked to be thirds ... oj is bailing to his third, meesh is already covering the center of the field, hill sould have bailed to his third, but instead he had bad eye discipline ... you even see harris pointing to where he should be as harris has the flat covered
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19 is slow as **** too, he doesn’t have the speed to make up for those mistakes

 

[DPCane]

19 is slow as **** too, he doesn’t have the speed to make up for those mistakes

I was thinking the same. How the **** could he not catch a TE.

 

[Bender]

I was thinking the same. How the **** could he not catch a TE.

Because that TE is faster than people think. Ran a 4.6 40 at 6'4 215 in HS, plus a running start on that play.

 

[Hoyacane1620]

Don't forget Cal has all kinds of film on Meesh Powell. They knew exactly what his weakness is

 

[Bender]

on the TE play hill was the deep guy ... it looked to be thirds ... oj is bailing to his third, meesh is already covering the center of the field, hill sould have bailed to his third, but instead he had bad eye discipline ... you even see harris pointing to where he should be as harris has the flat covered
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This is what I'm talking about. Unsure why, but we have a mentality to stop plays for TFLs instead of executing proper technique.

We have eyes in the backfield all the time, as if we're forced to. That HB screen in the 3rd quarter, if Harris squares properly and doesn't fly in like a moron, it's a five yard gain and a punt.

Same thing applies here. Why are you biting? Just play your **** responsibility. This is why gimmicky offenses work against us. We get out of structure way too easily and commit way too many mental errors. VT was on Guidry because he kept blitzing with no purpose. Cal is on the players.

 

[gacaneaddict]

This is what I'm talking about. Unsure why, but we have a mentality to stop plays for TFLs instead of executing proper technique.

We have eyes in the backfield all the time, as if we're forced to. That HB screen in the 3rd quarter, if Harris squares properly and doesn't fly in like a moron, it's a five yard gain and a punt.

Same thing applies here. Why are you biting? Just play your **** responsibility. This is why gimmicky offenses work against us. We get out of structure way too easily and commit way too many mental errors. VT was on Guidry because he kept blitzing with no purpose. Cal is on the players.

to be fair the players tackled like crap in the VT game. Well documented worst tackling game of the Cristobal era.

 

[bacane]

This is what I'm talking about. Unsure why, but we have a mentality to stop plays for TFLs instead of executing proper technique.

We have eyes in the backfield all the time, as if we're forced to. That HB screen in the 3rd quarter, if Harris squares properly and doesn't fly in like a moron, it's a five yard gain and a punt.

Same thing applies here. Why are you biting? Just play your **** responsibility. This is why gimmicky offenses work against us. We get out of structure way too easily and commit way too many mental errors. VT was on Guidry because he kept blitzing with no purpose. Cal is on the players.

Trying to hit a home run rather than taking a single.

 

[edge]

not lance but the touchdown against dyoni hill was all on hill ... mario mentioned as much this morning ... they were playing thirds and dioni didn't sink to his third and instead bit on the screen ...

the deep play against powell was a result of two weeks prep, they got the look they wanted as powell was responsible for a slot guy, the cal kid just got the better of meesh, plain and simple ... in those alignments you gotta hope the dline helps with pressure, but cal rolled the pocket ... they schemed us up

the ott touchdown was cover 0 with a bunch of coverage busts ... plus ott stepped out of bounds

Interesting that Ott was ob. Any video evidence?

 

[canesupremacy]

not lance but the touchdown against dyoni hill was all on hill ... mario mentioned as much this morning ... they were playing thirds and dioni didn't sink to his third and instead bit on the screen ...

the deep play against powell was a result of two weeks prep, they got the look they wanted as powell was responsible for a slot guy, the cal kid just got the better of meesh, plain and simple ... in those alignments you gotta hope the dline helps with pressure, but cal rolled the pocket ... they schemed us up

the ott touchdown was cover 0 with a bunch of coverage busts ... plus ott stepped out of bounds

I saw that exact play happening. It was obvious they were going to hit a streaking rb after the initial attempt (cancelled by a timeout) happened. Powell should have known better

 

[Canesfrom]

Would love a formal analysis on all 4 busted plays… do our safeties just not provide safety?

 

[mirasuegui]

on the TE play hill was the deep guy ... it looked to be thirds ... oj is bailing to his third, meesh is already covering the center of the field, hill sould have bailed to his third, but instead he had bad eye discipline ... you even see harris pointing to where he should be as harris has the flat covered
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Amazing, so the true freshman does his job, but the season veteran busted his coverage. There goes the theory of trusting experience

 

[mirasuegui]

19 is slow as **** too, he doesn’t have the speed to make up for those mistakes

The kid he was chasing looked more like a WR. then a TE.

 

[mirasuegui]

to be fair the players tackled like crap in the VT game. Well documented worst tackling game of the Cristobal era.

Again, tackling is a fundamental, it's like layups in basketball. I just don't think fundamentals are taught or emphasized as much as they should be. Never seen so many missed tackles, and layups like in today's game. Even in the pros, most of the big plays come off missed tackles. Back in the day, the training camps were all about developing proper techniques for tackling, and blocking, and conditioning your bodies to take the hits.

 

[JBCanes-NC]

Dline must get pressure in 2 seconds or this secondary is toast. Need Brown back, bad!!

 

[Yoyo423]

I'm actually curious to understand this as well.

Cal had 370 total yards in 49 plays. 297 passing yards in 24 pass attempts and 73 rushing yards in 25 rush attempts.

They had passes of 66, 57, 56, and 51 yards and runs of 20, 22, and 19 yards. All what appear to be busted coverage/assignment.

You take those 7 plays out (291 yards) and their stats are:

79 total yards in 42 plays (1.88y/a)
67 passing yards in 20 pass attempts (3.35y/a)
12 rushing yards in 22 rush attempts (0.55y/a)

Now I know if you take explosive plays out of most offenses the numbers don't look good but Cal had their 7 most explosive plays of the season against us. There is definitely an unbalanced number of busted plays we're giving up that Guidry needs to figure out because if he can just remove HALF of those of those per game we can go back to blowing teams out again.

 

[skyman]

I'm actually curious to understand this as well.

Cal had 370 total yards in 49 plays. 297 passing yards in 24 pass attempts and 73 rushing yards in 25 rush attempts.

They had passes of 66, 57, 56, and 51 yards and runs of 20, 22, and 19 yards. All what appear to be busted coverage/assignment.

You take those 7 plays out (291 yards) and their stats are:

79 total yards in 42 plays (1.88y/a)
67 passing yards in 20 pass attempts (3.35y/a)
12 rushing yards in 22 rush attempts (0.55y/a)

Now I know if you take explosive plays out of most offenses the numbers don't look good but Cal had their 7 most explosive plays of the season against us. There is definitely an unbalanced number of busted plays we're giving up that Guidry needs to figure out because if he can just remove HALF of those of those per game we can go back to blowing teams out again.

I wonder how many defenses if you take away the bad plays they would be good..

If it was one or two bust ok cool.. they ran 42 total plays.. you took away around 20% cmon.. This is from an offense that sucks also