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[video=youtube;bGta3c_Wkg0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGta3c_Wkg0[/video]
YES!! Appreciate it
broke that dudes ankles...That move Duke put on the Duke defender for the 18 yd touchdown was sick.
broke that dudes ankles...That move Duke put on the Duke defender for the 18 yd touchdown was sick.
Thanks Spoon.
Impressed how Feliciano got out on that James screen. Big Man was step for step with MJ. Looking forward to watching him play two more years, could be this groups Sherko, leadership and performance.
Impressed how Feliciano got out on that James screen. Big Man was step for step with MJ. Looking forward to watching him play two more years, could be this groups Sherko, leadership and performance.
Nice catch. I like the Sherko comparison in terms of leadership and stability, but Feliciano is on a completely different talent level. Not only is he a standout Guard, but he's probably our RT if a tackle gets hurt next year. Beyond that, I think he's an NFL player after his time here.
Can't wait until our defense steps up to the point that we can begin to wear teams out in the running game.
Our poor defense hurts is in more ways than just giving up yards and points to the opponent. I think it not only factors in to us not running the ball as much as we would like, but I think it also affects the manner in which we call our running game. We call our running game to crease the defense and get a big play as opposed to picking up 4 or 5 yards because we need to score points. People say we need to possess the ball more, but a ball control offense also lends to the thought process of not being afraid to punt, and this year, I was DEATHLY afraid of punting the football.
When I opened thread, I was hoping for the season highlights for Duke Johnson. I was slightly disappointed when that wasn't what I saw, but then I realized this is awesome! Good job spooner!
Can't wait until our defense steps up to the point that we can begin to wear teams out in the running game.
Our poor defense hurts is in more ways than just giving up yards and points to the opponent. I think it not only factors in to us not running the ball as much as we would like, but I think it also affects the manner in which we call our running game. We call our running game to crease the defense and get a big play as opposed to picking up 4 or 5 yards because we need to score points. People say we need to possess the ball more, but a ball control offense also lends to the thought process of not being afraid to punt, and this year, I was DEATHLY afraid of punting the football.
I think you have it reversed. The offense can set the tone. It does not. It increases the pace and establishes the current style we see. Proof? We had multiple opportunities to grind out victories by doing what you can't wait to see, but instead literally put the onus on the defense.
I've never seen a ball control offense with a poor defense and it would be kind of me to refer to our defense as poor. Sure, I guess they work hand and hand somewhat, but are you telling me that with a slower pace, our defense wouldn't have been terrible? We had poor personnel and youth to boot. Our defense being bad was about lack of horses, not the horses running out of gas on the stretch.
Can't wait until our defense steps up to the point that we can begin to wear teams out in the running game.
Our poor defense hurts is in more ways than just giving up yards and points to the opponent. I think it not only factors in to us not running the ball as much as we would like, but I think it also affects the manner in which we call our running game. We call our running game to crease the defense and get a big play as opposed to picking up 4 or 5 yards because we need to score points. People say we need to possess the ball more, but a ball control offense also lends to the thought process of not being afraid to punt, and this year, I was DEATHLY afraid of punting the football.
I think you have it reversed. The offense can set the tone. It does not. It increases the pace and establishes the current style we see. Proof? We had multiple opportunities to grind out victories by doing what you can't wait to see, but instead literally put the onus on the defense.
I've never seen a ball control offense with a poor defense and it would be kind of me to refer to our defense as poor. Sure, I guess they work hand and hand somewhat, but are you telling me that with a slower pace, our defense wouldn't have been terrible? We had poor personnel and youth to boot. Our defense being bad was about lack of horses, not the horses running out of gas on the stretch.
Are you telling me that, this year, in real life (not a hypothetical of what we'd like to see), when we had the opportunities to close out games with ball control (that according to you we don't use because of our defense), we just chose to try something different? Are you telling me that we intentionally tried to force Morris into a 4-22 completion percentage in the red zone because of...our defense?
My point is that we don't employ ball control because that's not the style our coordinator uses. Blaming that on the defense doesn't match up with the evidence.
Besides Virginia, point me out where we could have grinded out a win and didn't.
BTW, against Virginia, we ran it 3 straight times, and punted on our final possession, employing the blocking scheme that we are pining for.
I've never seen a ball control offense with a poor defense and it would be kind of me to refer to our defense as poor. Sure, I guess they work hand and hand somewhat, but are you telling me that with a slower pace, our defense wouldn't have been terrible? We had poor personnel and youth to boot. Our defense being bad was about lack of horses, not the horses running out of gas on the stretch.
Are you telling me that, this year, in real life (not a hypothetical of what we'd like to see), when we had the opportunities to close out games with ball control (that according to you we don't use because of our defense), we just chose to try something different? Are you telling me that we intentionally tried to force Morris into a 4-22 completion percentage in the red zone because of...our defense?
My point is that we don't employ ball control because that's not the style our coordinator uses. Blaming that on the defense doesn't match up with the evidence.
Besides Virginia, point me out where we could have grinded out a win and didn't.
BTW, against Virginia, we ran it 3 straight times, and punted on our final possession, employing the blocking scheme that we are pining for.
I hope you're kidding. We are 116th in the NCAA in rush attempts. And, running the ball "3 straight times at the end of the game" is not an effective way of being committed to successfully running the ball (which is what provides ball control).
I see where this is going. Nevermind.
Didn't think you would be able to provide examples
Besides Virginia, point me out where we could have grinded out a win and didn't.
BTW, against Virginia, we ran it 3 straight times, and punted on our final possession, employing the blocking scheme that we are pining for.
I hope you're kidding. We are 116th in the NCAA in rush attempts. And, running the ball "3 straight times at the end of the game" is not an effective way of being committed to successfully running the ball (which is what provides ball control).
I see where this is going. Nevermind.
Didn't think you would be able to provide examples
Please don't bring snide remarks into the discussion. You'll lower the quality. Here are some examples off the top of my head:
(1) Duke. Yesterday. Remember that game? We were up 45-24 at one point. Do you believe we effectively controlled the ball from that point?
(2) Virginia. You mentioned it yourself. We were up 38-28.
(3) NC State. We were up 23-7 and 37-27 in that game.
(4) GTech. We were up 19-7 in that game before it became a complete shootout.
(5) Boston College. We were up by double digits in the 4th quarter and then went on a crazed 10 play drive that took off a masterful 2 minutes off the clock. We scored. We went up like 18 points. They later tightened up the game and we needed a 4th and goal stop.
Those are 5 examples out of 11 legitimate games. The 116th in rush attempts isn't enough to show you we are not committed to any kind of effective ball control?
I look forward to your response. I hope it's relevant to what was written here.
KNEW that you were going to start citing games in which we had leads in the first half. So you wanna take your foot off the gas against NCSU?
You wanna start punting the football to Georgia Tech IN THE SECOND QUARTER??? You want to play blame it on the offense that Georgia Tech ran off THIRTY SIX CONSECUTIVE POINTS???
Once again you are missing the point, ball control implies that you are okay with punting the football if you don't make a first down, just to put money in the bank towards the end of the game. Putting "money in the bank" with this defense is asking for that money to be stolen. You are operating under the premise that we will run for first downs and grind out the clock. But what if that's not the case and we start punting the football AND taking time off the clock, which in turn takes away possessions from our offense?
Listen, if you believe in "ball control" in the 2nd Quarter with Kacy Rodgers and AJ Highsmith patrolling the back end...more power to you. We differ in philosophy.
I'm interested in catering to our strength as opposed to trying to mask our weakness. Our strength is our offense and I want to create as many opportunities for them as possible especially when we have a better offense than the opposition.
Didn't think you would be able to provide examples
Please don't bring snide remarks into the discussion. You'll lower the quality. Here are some examples off the top of my head:
(1) Duke. Yesterday. Remember that game? We were up 45-24 at one point. Do you believe we effectively controlled the ball from that point?
(2) Virginia. You mentioned it yourself. We were up 38-28.
(3) NC State. We were up 23-7 and 37-27 in that game.
(4) GTech. We were up 19-7 in that game before it became a complete shootout.
(5) Boston College. We were up by double digits in the 4th quarter and then went on a crazed 10 play drive that took off a masterful 2 minutes off the clock. We scored. We went up like 18 points. They later tightened up the game and we needed a 4th and goal stop.
Those are 5 examples out of 11 legitimate games. The 116th in rush attempts isn't enough to show you we are not committed to any kind of effective ball control?
I look forward to your response. I hope it's relevant to what was written here.
KNEW that you were going to start citing games in which we had leads in the first half. So you wanna take your foot off the gas against NCSU?
You wanna start punting the football to Georgia Tech IN THE SECOND QUARTER??? You want to play blame it on the offense that Georgia Tech ran off THIRTY SIX CONSECUTIVE POINTS???
Once again you are missing the point, ball control implies that you are okay with punting the football if you don't make a first down, just to put money in the bank towards the end of the game. Putting "money in the bank" with this defense is asking for that money to be stolen. You are operating under the premise that we will run for first downs and grind out the clock. But what if that's not the case and we start punting the football AND taking time off the clock, which in turn takes away possessions from our offense?
Listen, if you believe in "ball control" in the 2nd Quarter with Kacy Rodgers and AJ Highsmith patrolling the back end...more power to you. We differ in philosophy.
I'm interested in catering to our strength as opposed to trying to mask our weakness. Our strength is our offense and I want to create as many opportunities for them as possible especially when we have a better offense than the opposition.
*So, I* am the one missing the point. Ok. To answer your question, we were up 37-27 in the NC State game as well. Ball control doesn't imply what you want it to imply. It doesn't mean "punt the ball." It means commit to running the ball and that doesn't mean run the ball for the sake of balance or "run the ball on first down." Ball control implies a philosophy that is opposite of what our O-Coordinator showed this year. That's his decision. For the 10th time, we were 116th in the nation in rush attempts. It was blatantly evident in our redzone offense. I'm not surprised you've completely failed to address that point.
And, here's your playbook: "i knew that you were going to write that" and/or "I guess you can't answer." For the sake of the board (so that people actually care to answer you with substance), grow up with your approach.
We differ in philosophy. You are no more right than I am, though your mod status would have you believe differently.
P.S. It was easy to see where you were going to go with your examples, just based on the storyline all of our games took. It wasn't being snide, or just trying to argue with disarmament. It's just apparent to anyone with some intelligence. Check your ego at the door. Speak for yourself, not the board.