Duke best ever?

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Anyone notice how our sweet, nice Duke of Miami takes down the big boys with his blocks? His execution at the knees is sweet. I know he got call for a chop on one play because lineman was on guy too, but he offers himself up to protect the QB. He sent one DE, Fowler I think, on Mr Toad's Wild Ride. Not sure if he will be the best Cane ever, but he sure is closing in on all time favorite Cane.
 
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His Oline has to help him more in the big games for him to become the best ever. He's great but he's not superman and can do it all by himself.
 
Duke is a team player. He is not a "I want to be a feature back" , "I need a strong Oline" etc etc

He will be a Hurricane legend before he leaves Miami and will do very well in the NFL
 
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His durability is a question mark...a big one. He's going to need 3 or more years to develop. His size is a real disadvantage and so far is not in the league of James or Anderson and their a ability to carry the ball 25 + times, wear down defenses and deliver punishment as they run. Willis and Portis seemed to be energized in big games....not seeing it in Duke so far.....then again Dukes OL has let him down in the big ones.

Ill be curious to see if he can take the beating at this level.
 
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Duke is great but he has a ways to go to be the best ever. He needs to win the Heisman to be in the same conversation as those guys.
 
Duke is great but he has a ways to go to be the best ever. He needs to win the Heisman to be in the same conversation as those guys.

So you're saying that the best Cane ever is either Testaverde or Torretta? Because I'm not sure either would be one of my top 3 quarterbacks to ever play here, much less player. We will see in a couple years what Duke's place is in history, but to this point the guy has been legendary.
 
Duke is great but he has a ways to go to be the best ever. He needs to win the Heisman to be in the same conversation as those guys.

So you're saying that the best Cane ever is either Testaverde or Torretta? Because I'm not sure either would be one of my top 3 quarterbacks to ever play here, much less player. We will see in a couple years what Duke's place is in history, but to this point the guy has been legendary.

He has this year and next and then he is going to the NFL. Looking at RB's I see:
McGahee
Portis
Gore
James

Duke does has time to pass these guys and before we bring up the Freshman rushing record. Had Portis not been on the team Gore would have destroyed it. Again I am not bashing Duke we lets not undermine some of the greats we had. McGahee would have won the heisman if him and Dorsey didn't split votes.
 
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Coley has done him a disservice through two games. One screen attempt that ended up a busted play because he got tangled in traffic... Vs FAU.

Kid is one of the most dynamic players in college football. Zero creativity so far.
 
Duke is great but he has a ways to go to be the best ever. He needs to win the Heisman to be in the same conversation as those guys.

So you're saying that the best Cane ever is either Testaverde or Torretta? Because I'm not sure either would be one of my top 3 quarterbacks to ever play here, much less player. We will see in a couple years what Duke's place is in history, but to this point the guy has been legendary.

Duke is going to have to deliver big numbersin big games. So far, havent seen it. Give the kid time before the hyperbole begins.
 
Duke is great but he has a ways to go to be the best ever. He needs to win the Heisman to be in the same conversation as those guys.

So you're saying that the best Cane ever is either Testaverde or Torretta? Because I'm not sure either would be one of my top 3 quarterbacks to ever play here, much less player. We will see in a couple years what Duke's place is in history, but to this point the guy has been legendary.

He has this year and next and then he is going to the NFL. Looking at RB's I see:
McGahee
Portis
Gore
James

Duke does has time to pass these guys and before we bring up the Freshman rushing record. Had Portis not been on the team Gore would have destroyed it. Again I am not bashing Duke we lets not undermine some of the greats we had. McGahee would have won the heisman if him and Dorsey didn't split votes.

Dorsey and McGahees votes combined didn't equal Larry Johnsons so that theory is wrong. People forget how great Ottis Anderson was or were too young to have seen him. One thing about all the RBs who played for Soldinger was if you didn't block you didn't play and to this day they are among best blocking backs in NFL.
 
People forget how great Ottis Anderson was or were too young to have seen him.

Exactly. And it's an ongoing theme, regardless of which Canes board I've sampled. It really shouldn't happen here. The younger posters need to take their opinion of Ottis Anderson and multiply by at least 50% to threaten how special he was as a Cane. He's the best back I've seen in a Miami uniform, after following the program since the late '60s. Fantastic combination of size, feet, instincts, power, competitiveness and speed. Anderson wasn't blazing fast but he had such a terrific early burst that it created enough separation for him to take it the distance.

Too many fans remember his plowhorse days late in his NFL career for the Giants. That's always the issue. They envision Anderson as a plodding 3 yards per carry type and can't fathom the jitterbug dominance of his prime. I remember when Paul Zimmerman of Sports Illustrated placed Ottis on his NFL All-Pro team one year early in Anderson's career, above Walter Payton. Dr. Z quoted an NFL player who said that Anderson simply caused more problems than Payton did. Unfortunately, Anderson was overworked early with the Cardinals, like many backs of that run oriented era, and decided he needed to gain weight to counter the physical challenges. That weight gain lessened many of his special gifts. And the team declined as well.

Of all the great Canes, Anderson is the one guy who got a terrible break in terms of who drafted him. He could have been a mega legend if, for example, the 49ers had found him on the brink of the Montana era.
 
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Agreed, if you give that kid the ball in space with some pulling OL, he is a nitemare! We gotta get that play in alot more!
Coley has done him a disservice through two games. One screen attempt that ended up a busted play because he got tangled in traffic... Vs FAU.

Kid is one of the most dynamic players in college football. Zero creativity so far.
 
People forget how great Ottis Anderson was or were too young to have seen him.

Exactly. And it's an ongoing theme, regardless of which Canes board I've sampled. It really shouldn't happen here. The younger posters need to take their opinion of Ottis Anderson and multiply by at least 50% to threaten how special he was as a Cane. He's the best back I've seen in a Miami uniform, after following the program since the late '60s. Fantastic combination of size, feet, instincts, power, competitiveness and speed. Anderson wasn't blazing fast but he had such a terrific early burst that it created enough separation for him to take it the distance.

Too many fans remember his plowhorse days late in his NFL career for the Giants. That's always the issue. They envision Anderson as a plodding 3 yards per carry type and can't fathom the jitterbug dominance of his prime. I remember when Paul Zimmerman of Sports Illustrated placed Ottis on his NFL All-Pro team one year early in Anderson's career, above Walter Payton. Dr. Z quoted an NFL player who said that Anderson simply caused more problems than Payton did. Unfortunately, Anderson was overworked early with the Cardinals, like many backs of that run oriented era, and decided he needed to gain weight to counter the physical challenges. That weight gain lessened many of his special gifts. And the team declined as well.

Of all the great Canes, Anderson is the one guy who got a terrible break in terms of who drafted him. He could have been a mega legend if, for example, the 49ers had found him on the brink of the Montana era.

Great post. +rep
 
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Duke is great but he has a ways to go to be the best ever. He needs to win the Heisman to be in the same conversation as those guys.

So you're saying that the best Cane ever is either Testaverde or Torretta? Because I'm not sure either would be one of my top 3 quarterbacks to ever play here, much less player. We will see in a couple years what Duke's place is in history, but to this point the guy has been legendary.

He has this year and next and then he is going to the NFL. Looking at RB's I see:
McGahee
Portis
Gore
James

Duke does has time to pass these guys and before we bring up the Freshman rushing record. Had Portis not been on the team Gore would have destroyed it. Again I am not bashing Duke we lets not undermine some of the greats we had. McGahee would have won the heisman if him and Dorsey didn't split votes.

Dorsey and McGahees votes combined didn't equal Larry Johnsons so that theory is wrong. People forget how great Ottis Anderson was or were too young to have seen him. One thing about all the RBs who played for Soldinger was if you didn't block you didn't play and to this day they are among best blocking backs in NFL.

Larry Johnson didn't win the heisman and yes their votes combined would have beat Larry Johnson. They would have been 25 short of winning the heisman. I think a lot of writers went elsewhere in the vote because dorsey made willis look good and vice versa.

McGahee had over 1700 hards and 28 touchdowns(2nd that year in the NCAA). He got hurt and his NFL career isn't what it could have been but form a college standpoint he is the best RB we have ever had and its not even close. McGahee ran a 4.28 40yd time. I don't have his lift numbers but he was the strongest back we have ever had as well. I love Duke but he isn't better than McGahee.
 
Yep, I'd put mcgahee, Portisand edge above him. Never saw Anderson play in college. I saw him while he was still young in the nfl. He was awesome.
 
Duke is great but he has a ways to go to be the best ever. He needs to win the Heisman to be in the same conversation as those guys.

So you're saying that the best Cane ever is either Testaverde or Torretta? Because I'm not sure either would be one of my top 3 quarterbacks to ever play here, much less player. We will see in a couple years what Duke's place is in history, but to this point the guy has been legendary.

He has this year and next and then he is going to the NFL. Looking at RB's I see:
McGahee
Portis
Gore
James

Duke does has time to pass these guys and before we bring up the Freshman rushing record. Had Portis not been on the team Gore would have destroyed it. Again I am not bashing Duke we lets not undermine some of the greats we had. McGahee would have won the heisman if him and Dorsey didn't split votes.

Dorsey and McGahees votes combined didn't equal Larry Johnsons so that theory is wrong. People forget how great Ottis Anderson was or were too young to have seen him. One thing about all the RBs who played for Soldinger was if you didn't block you didn't play and to this day they are among best blocking backs in NFL.

Larry Johnson didn't win the heisman and yes their votes combined would have beat Larry Johnson. They would have been 25 short of winning the heisman. I think a lot of writers went elsewhere in the vote because dorsey made willis look good and vice versa.

McGahee had over 1700 hards and 28 touchdowns(2nd that year in the NCAA). He got hurt and his NFL career isn't what it could have been but form a college standpoint he is the best RB we have ever had and its not even close. McGahee ran a 4.28 40yd time. I don't have his lift numbers but he was the strongest back we have ever had as well. I love Duke but he isn't better than McGahee.

My bad on the Johnson when it was Palmer that said he wouldn't have won the Heisman if Dorsey wasn't there because many considered Johnson the better bac as was reflected in all the awards that year. As far as being the best and not even close I will take an Ottis Anderson with a bad team anyday as if he had had the talent Willis had had he would have been the 1st 2,000 yard college rusher. He ran for 1600 as a rookie with a bad team, he was the best I have seen in a Miami uniform.
 
People forget how great Ottis Anderson was or were too young to have seen him.

Exactly. And it's an ongoing theme, regardless of which Canes board I've sampled. It really shouldn't happen here. The younger posters need to take their opinion of Ottis Anderson and multiply by at least 50% to threaten how special he was as a Cane. He's the best back I've seen in a Miami uniform, after following the program since the late '60s. Fantastic combination of size, feet, instincts, power, competitiveness and speed. Anderson wasn't blazing fast but he had such a terrific early burst that it created enough separation for him to take it the distance.

Too many fans remember his plowhorse days late in his NFL career for the Giants. That's always the issue. They envision Anderson as a plodding 3 yards per carry type and can't fathom the jitterbug dominance of his prime. I remember when Paul Zimmerman of Sports Illustrated placed Ottis on his NFL All-Pro team one year early in Anderson's career, above Walter Payton. Dr. Z quoted an NFL player who said that Anderson simply caused more problems than Payton did. Unfortunately, Anderson was overworked early with the Cardinals, like many backs of that run oriented era, and decided he needed to gain weight to counter the physical challenges. That weight gain lessened many of his special gifts. And the team declined as well.

Of all the great Canes, Anderson is the one guy who got a terrible break in terms of who drafted him. He could have been a mega legend if, for example, the 49ers had found him on the brink of the Montana era.

Can't argue with OJ. He had everything and changing from elusive to brusier not something done often. No doubt if he played on our later teams his numbers would had been in outer space. It is great to be a Miami Hurricane. To be able to debate so many fantastic players at so many positions is priceless. For me, I think The Mad Stork remains my greatest ever, but day by day, Duke is putting a headlock on my favorite all time Cane.
 
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