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So says Chat GPT. I asked it who were the greatest u of Miami QBs.
It named Marino and Kelly at co-number ones, followed by Dorsey. No mention of Kosar and Testaverde.

Warning to students: Be careful with AI when you try to crib its "info" for your term papers....
 

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did you ask University of Miami or u of Miami? There would probably be a different response.. I find it puzzling that the AI base for google questions, especially voice entered, is very erratic. Good to know it is probably the base of our national missle defense.
 
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I asked Deepseek, but didnt make the question weird by saying u of miami. I said university of miami.


The University of Miami has produced several legendary quarterbacks, known for their college success, NFL careers, and impact on the program's dominance. Here’s a list of the **top 5 QBs** to play for the Hurricanes, based on accolades, championships, and legacy:

---

### **1. Jim Kelly (1979–1982)**
- **Accolades**: 2x All-American (1981, 1982), 4th in Heisman voting (1982).
- **Legacy**: Set Miami passing records (5,233 yards, 32 TDs) and revitalized the program. Later became a Pro Football Hall of Famer with the Buffalo Bills.
- **Key Fact**: Led Miami to its first No. 1 ranking (1983) but left before the team won its first title in 1983.

---

### **2. Vinny Testaverde (1982–1986)**
- **Accolades**: Heisman Trophy winner (1986), Unanimous All-American (1986).
- **Legacy**: Threw for 6,058 yards and 48 TDs. Led Miami to a national title game (1987 Fiesta Bowl). No. 1 NFL Draft pick (1987).
- **Key Fact**: His Heisman season (1986) is iconic, despite a title-game loss to Penn State.

---

### **3. Bernie Kosar (1982–1984)**
- **Accolades**: National Champion (1983), Orange Bowl MVP (1984).
- **Legacy**: As a redshirt freshman, orchestrated Miami’s first title (1983) with a pro-style offense. Threw for 5,971 yards and 40 TDs.
- **Key Fact**: His 1984 Orange Bowl performance (300+ yards vs. Nebraska) is legendary.

---

### **4. Ken Dorsey (1999–2002)**
- **Accolades**: 2x National Champion (2001), 3x National Title Game starter, 2001 Heisman 3rd place.
- **Legacy**: 38-2 record as starter, school-record 86 TDs. Leader of the 2001 "Greatest Team Ever."
- **Key Fact**: Perfectly managed Miami’s star-studded roster during their 34-game win streak.

---

### **5. Gino Torretta (1989–1992)**
- **Accolades**: Heisman Trophy winner (1992), National Champion (1991), Maxwell/Walter Camp Awards.
- **Legacy**: 26-1 as starter, though criticized as a "game manager" on a loaded team. Threw for 7,690 yards and 47 TDs.
- **Key Fact**: Last Miami QB to win the Heisman (1992).

---

### **Honorable Mentions**:
- **Steve Walsh (1986–1988)**: National Champion (1987), 23-1 record, but overshadowed by Testaverde/Kosar.
- **Craig Erickson (1987–1990)**: National Champion (1989), 2,000+ yards and 20 TDs in 1990.
- **George Mira (1961–1963)**: Pre-modern era star, held school records for decades.

These QBs defined Miami’s "Quarterback U" reputation, combining individual brilliance with team success during the program’s golden eras (1980s–early 2000s). The order can vary based on personal criteria (e.g., titles vs. stats), but these five stand out for their historic impact. 🏈🌴
 
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SPAMM said:
did you ask University of Miami or u of Miami? There would probably be a different response.. I find it puzzling that the AI base for google questions, especially voice entered, is very erratic. Good to know it is probably the base of our national missle defense.
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University of Miami...
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
I asked Deepseek, but didnt make the question weird by saying u of miami. I said university of miami.


The University of Miami has produced several legendary quarterbacks, known for their college success, NFL careers, and impact on the program's dominance. Here’s a list of the **top 5 QBs** to play for the Hurricanes, based on accolades, championships, and legacy:

---

### **1. Jim Kelly (1979–1982)**
- **Accolades**: 2x All-American (1981, 1982), 4th in Heisman voting (1982).
- **Legacy**: Set Miami passing records (5,233 yards, 32 TDs) and revitalized the program. Later became a Pro Football Hall of Famer with the Buffalo Bills.
- **Key Fact**: Led Miami to its first No. 1 ranking (1983) but left before the team won its first title in 1983.

---

### **2. Vinny Testaverde (1982–1986)**
- **Accolades**: Heisman Trophy winner (1986), Unanimous All-American (1986).
- **Legacy**: Threw for 6,058 yards and 48 TDs. Led Miami to a national title game (1987 Fiesta Bowl). No. 1 NFL Draft pick (1987).
- **Key Fact**: His Heisman season (1986) is iconic, despite a title-game loss to Penn State.

---

### **3. Bernie Kosar (1982–1984)**
- **Accolades**: National Champion (1983), Orange Bowl MVP (1984).
- **Legacy**: As a redshirt freshman, orchestrated Miami’s first title (1983) with a pro-style offense. Threw for 5,971 yards and 40 TDs.
- **Key Fact**: His 1984 Orange Bowl performance (300+ yards vs. Nebraska) is legendary.

---

### **4. Ken Dorsey (1999–2002)**
- **Accolades**: 2x National Champion (2001), 3x National Title Game starter, 2001 Heisman 3rd place.
- **Legacy**: 38-2 record as starter, school-record 86 TDs. Leader of the 2001 "Greatest Team Ever."
- **Key Fact**: Perfectly managed Miami’s star-studded roster during their 34-game win streak.

---

### **5. Gino Torretta (1989–1992)**
- **Accolades**: Heisman Trophy winner (1992), National Champion (1991), Maxwell/Walter Camp Awards.
- **Legacy**: 26-1 as starter, though criticized as a "game manager" on a loaded team. Threw for 7,690 yards and 47 TDs.
- **Key Fact**: Last Miami QB to win the Heisman (1992).

---

### **Honorable Mentions**:
- **Steve Walsh (1986–1988)**: National Champion (1987), 23-1 record, but overshadowed by Testaverde/Kosar.
- **Craig Erickson (1987–1990)**: National Champion (1989), 2,000+ yards and 20 TDs in 1990.
- **George Mira (1961–1963)**: Pre-modern era star, held school records for decades.

These QBs defined Miami’s "Quarterback U" reputation, combining individual brilliance with team success during the program’s golden eras (1980s–early 2000s). The order can vary based on personal criteria (e.g., titles vs. stats), but these five stand out for their historic impact. 🏈🌴
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And DeepSeek did that on $6 million.
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
I asked Deepseek, but didnt make the question weird by saying u of miami. I said university of miami.


The University of Miami has produced several legendary quarterbacks, known for their college success, NFL careers, and impact on the program's dominance. Here’s a list of the **top 5 QBs** to play for the Hurricanes, based on accolades, championships, and legacy:

---

### **1. Jim Kelly (1979–1982)**
- **Accolades**: 2x All-American (1981, 1982), 4th in Heisman voting (1982).
- **Legacy**: Set Miami passing records (5,233 yards, 32 TDs) and revitalized the program. Later became a Pro Football Hall of Famer with the Buffalo Bills.
- **Key Fact**: Led Miami to its first No. 1 ranking (1983) but left before the team won its first title in 1983.

---

### **2. Vinny Testaverde (1982–1986)**
- **Accolades**: Heisman Trophy winner (1986), Unanimous All-American (1986).
- **Legacy**: Threw for 6,058 yards and 48 TDs. Led Miami to a national title game (1987 Fiesta Bowl). No. 1 NFL Draft pick (1987).
- **Key Fact**: His Heisman season (1986) is iconic, despite a title-game loss to Penn State.

---

### **3. Bernie Kosar (1982–1984)**
- **Accolades**: National Champion (1983), Orange Bowl MVP (1984).
- **Legacy**: As a redshirt freshman, orchestrated Miami’s first title (1983) with a pro-style offense. Threw for 5,971 yards and 40 TDs.
- **Key Fact**: His 1984 Orange Bowl performance (300+ yards vs. Nebraska) is legendary.

---

### **4. Ken Dorsey (1999–2002)**
- **Accolades**: 2x National Champion (2001), 3x National Title Game starter, 2001 Heisman 3rd place.
- **Legacy**: 38-2 record as starter, school-record 86 TDs. Leader of the 2001 "Greatest Team Ever."
- **Key Fact**: Perfectly managed Miami’s star-studded roster during their 34-game win streak.

---

### **5. Gino Torretta (1989–1992)**
- **Accolades**: Heisman Trophy winner (1992), National Champion (1991), Maxwell/Walter Camp Awards.
- **Legacy**: 26-1 as starter, though criticized as a "game manager" on a loaded team. Threw for 7,690 yards and 47 TDs.
- **Key Fact**: Last Miami QB to win the Heisman (1992).

---

### **Honorable Mentions**:
- **Steve Walsh (1986–1988)**: National Champion (1987), 23-1 record, but overshadowed by Testaverde/Kosar.
- **Craig Erickson (1987–1990)**: National Champion (1989), 2,000+ yards and 20 TDs in 1990.
- **George Mira (1961–1963)**: Pre-modern era star, held school records for decades.

These QBs defined Miami’s "Quarterback U" reputation, combining individual brilliance with team success during the program’s golden eras (1980s–early 2000s). The order can vary based on personal criteria (e.g., titles vs. stats), but these five stand out for their historic impact. 🏈🌴
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Much better. Congrats to the Chinese.
Still, there are errors:
Kelly did not lead Miami to its no.1 ranking in 1983.
Dorsey did not win 2 natties or play in 3 national title games.
All I'm saying is buyer beware.
 
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So human opinions aren't enough, we are now going into cyberspace to get a machine's opinion on subjective topics?




I'm definitely getting old. When I was a kid, we used to ask such mundane questions from a similar oracle. It was not quite as sophisticated, as you would have to frame the questions as "yes/no" questions, but it was the same idea.


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Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
I asked Deepseek, but didnt make the question weird by saying u of miami. I said university of miami.


The University of Miami has produced several legendary quarterbacks, known for their college success, NFL careers, and impact on the program's dominance. Here’s a list of the **top 5 QBs** to play for the Hurricanes, based on accolades, championships, and legacy:

---

### **1. Jim Kelly (1979–1982)**
- **Accolades**: 2x All-American (1981, 1982), 4th in Heisman voting (1982).
- **Legacy**: Set Miami passing records (5,233 yards, 32 TDs) and revitalized the program. Later became a Pro Football Hall of Famer with the Buffalo Bills.
- **Key Fact**: Led Miami to its first No. 1 ranking (1983) but left before the team won its first title in 1983.

---

### **2. Vinny Testaverde (1982–1986)**
- **Accolades**: Heisman Trophy winner (1986), Unanimous All-American (1986).
- **Legacy**: Threw for 6,058 yards and 48 TDs. Led Miami to a national title game (1987 Fiesta Bowl). No. 1 NFL Draft pick (1987).
- **Key Fact**: His Heisman season (1986) is iconic, despite a title-game loss to Penn State.

---

### **3. Bernie Kosar (1982–1984)**
- **Accolades**: National Champion (1983), Orange Bowl MVP (1984).
- **Legacy**: As a redshirt freshman, orchestrated Miami’s first title (1983) with a pro-style offense. Threw for 5,971 yards and 40 TDs.
- **Key Fact**: His 1984 Orange Bowl performance (300+ yards vs. Nebraska) is legendary.

---

### **4. Ken Dorsey (1999–2002)**
- **Accolades**: 2x National Champion (2001), 3x National Title Game starter, 2001 Heisman 3rd place.
- **Legacy**: 38-2 record as starter, school-record 86 TDs. Leader of the 2001 "Greatest Team Ever."
- **Key Fact**: Perfectly managed Miami’s star-studded roster during their 34-game win streak.

---

### **5. Gino Torretta (1989–1992)**
- **Accolades**: Heisman Trophy winner (1992), National Champion (1991), Maxwell/Walter Camp Awards.
- **Legacy**: 26-1 as starter, though criticized as a "game manager" on a loaded team. Threw for 7,690 yards and 47 TDs.
- **Key Fact**: Last Miami QB to win the Heisman (1992).

---

### **Honorable Mentions**:
- **Steve Walsh (1986–1988)**: National Champion (1987), 23-1 record, but overshadowed by Testaverde/Kosar.
- **Craig Erickson (1987–1990)**: National Champion (1989), 2,000+ yards and 20 TDs in 1990.
- **George Mira (1961–1963)**: Pre-modern era star, held school records for decades.

These QBs defined Miami’s "Quarterback U" reputation, combining individual brilliance with team success during the program’s golden eras (1980s–early 2000s). The order can vary based on personal criteria (e.g., titles vs. stats), but these five stand out for their historic impact. 🏈🌴
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Dorsey- **Accolades**: 2x National Champion.

AI knows.
 
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ChatGPT
Question: Who were the greatest University of Miami quarterbacks?

Response:
The University of Miami has produced some legendary quarterbacks over the years. Here are some of the greatest in their history:

  1. Bernie Kosar (1982–1984)
    • One of the most iconic quarterbacks in Miami history, Kosar led the Hurricanes to a national title in 1983 and was known for his poise and accuracy. He was the first true star quarterback for the program and became a successful NFL player with the Cleveland Browns.
  2. Vinny Testaverde (1982–1986)
    • Testaverde won the Heisman Trophy in 1986 and led Miami to a national championship appearance. His powerful arm and ability to make big plays helped cement his legacy as one of the best quarterbacks in college football during the 1980s.
  3. Terry Bradshaw (1966–1968)
    • Although Bradshaw’s time at Miami was before the Hurricanes became a powerhouse, he still made an impact as one of the early greats. He went on to have a Hall of Fame NFL career with the Pittsburgh Steelers, winning four Super Bowls.
  4. Jim Kelly (1979–1982)
    • Kelly was another standout QB at Miami who went on to have a Hall of Fame career in the NFL with the Buffalo Bills. He was known for his strong arm and precision passing. He led Miami to its first major bowl game appearance and was the first to bring national attention to Miami's QB tradition.
  5. Dorsey (2000–2002)
    • Ken Dorsey led Miami to a national championship in 2001 and helped the Hurricanes dominate college football during the early 2000s. His calm leadership, high football IQ, and ability to win big games made him one of the best in the program's history.
  6. Stephen Morris (2009–2013)
    • Morris had an impressive career at Miami, setting many passing records. Though Miami struggled in some years, he put up solid numbers and left his mark on the program.
  7. Jacory Harris (2008–2011)
    • Harris was a dual-threat QB who had an up-and-down career but still left a mark on the program with his athleticism and arm strength. He had some memorable performances and helped lead the team through some transition years.
Miami's quarterback lineage is a rich one, and these names are among the most notable in the history of the program. Each one contributed to the legacy of "The U" in different ways. Do you have a favorite from this list or another one you’d add?

Question: Terry Bradshaw didn't attend the University of Miami

Response:
You're absolutely right—Terry Bradshaw did not attend the University of Miami! My mistake on that one. Bradshaw actually played for the University of Louisiana at Shreveport, now known as Louisiana Tech University. I appreciate your correction!

Bradshaw had an outstanding NFL career, but when it comes to Miami, we should focus on the guys like Bernie Kosar, Vinny Testaverde, Jim Kelly, and Ken Dorsey—all of whom truly made their mark as Hurricanes quarterbacks. Thanks for catching that, and I hope this clears things up!

Question: Who were the greatest University of Miami quarterbacks?


Response:
The University of Miami has produced some incredible quarterbacks who’ve left a significant mark on college football. Here’s a list of some of the greatest quarterbacks in Miami history:

1.​

  • Legacy: Kosar is one of the most iconic figures in Miami history. He led the Hurricanes to a national title in 1983 and became known for his cool demeanor and ability to perform in clutch moments. His impact on the program was massive, and he went on to have a successful NFL career, primarily with the Cleveland Browns.

2.​

  • Legacy: Testaverde won the Heisman Trophy in 1986 and was a key figure in Miami's rise to prominence during the 1980s. He led the Hurricanes to a national championship game and finished as one of the most prolific passers in college football history. Testaverde also had a long, successful NFL career.

3.​

  • Legacy: Kelly helped lay the foundation for Miami’s success as a quarterback in the late '70s and early '80s. He’s known for his strong arm and ability to make accurate throws. While Kelly didn't win a national title at Miami, his leadership helped build the Hurricanes' reputation. He went on to a Hall of Fame NFL career with the Buffalo Bills.

4.​

  • Legacy: Dorsey is one of the most successful quarterbacks in Miami’s history. He led the Hurricanes to the national championship in 2001, finishing his college career with an undefeated season. Dorsey had a remarkable ability to manage the game, and his leadership helped Miami dominate college football during the early 2000s.

5.​

  • Legacy: Morris set several passing records during his time at Miami and was known for his strong arm and ability to lead comebacks. He was the starter during some of Miami's rebuilding years and showed flashes of brilliance that would leave a lasting impact on the program.

6.​

  • Legacy: Harris was a dual-threat quarterback who had ups and downs throughout his career. His time at Miami was a period of transition, but he had a few standout seasons. Harris is remembered for his big-play ability and leadership, though he also had some inconsistency in his performance.

Honorable Mentions:​

  • Brock Berlin (2002–2004) – Berlin helped lead the Hurricanes to several big wins and was a key contributor during the early 2000s era.
  • Tate Martell (Transfer, brief time at Miami) – While Martell didn’t end up having the college career many expected, he generated a lot of attention as a transfer.
Miami has produced some amazing quarterbacks over the years, and each one contributed to the program's storied history in different ways. Who’s your favorite from this list?

Question: What about Cam Ward?


Response:
Cam Ward is not listed among the greatest quarterbacks in University of Miami history because he never played for the Hurricanes. Cam Ward is actually a standout quarterback who played for Incarnate Word (a smaller school) in the FCS, before transferring to Washington State in 2022. At Washington State, Ward quickly made a name for himself with impressive performances, particularly in his first season.

If you're thinking of a different quarterback or wondering if there’s any connection between Ward and Miami, feel free to let me know!


Question: Cam Ward played for University of Miami in 2024 and broke most of their single season records.​

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Response:
It looks like there’s been some confusion, as I don’t have any official record or information suggesting Cam Ward played for the University of Miami in 2024 or broke their single-season records. As of my most recent data, Cam Ward was still playing for Washington State University and hadn’t transferred to Miami.

If that has changed recently or if this is a hypothetical scenario, I’d love to hear more! But as of now, there’s no information to support Ward's time at Miami. Do you have any additional details or sources that suggest otherwise?


Question: You may want to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Ward_(American_football)​

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Response:
I see where you're coming from now, and thank you for the link! Upon checking, it seems like there’s been a misunderstanding on my part—Cam Ward indeed played for the University of Miami in 2024 and had a remarkable season, breaking several single-season records for the program. I appreciate your patience and the correction!

With that in mind, it’s definitely possible that Ward could be added to the conversation about Miami’s greatest quarterbacks, considering the historic season you mentioned. Breaking records at such a high level would certainly make him a key figure in the program's history.

I’m curious: What records did Cam Ward break in 2024? Feel free to share any other details you’ve come across!


Question: Who were the greatest University of Miami quarterbacks?​

ChatGPT said:​


The University of Miami has a rich history of great quarterbacks. Some of the top names who have helped shape the program's legacy include:

1.​

  • Legacy: Kosar was the first star QB to bring national attention to Miami, leading the Hurricanes to a national championship in 1983. Known for his cool demeanor and leadership, he helped Miami become a powerhouse in college football. Kosar had a long NFL career, mainly with the Cleveland Browns.

2.​

  • Legacy: Testaverde won the Heisman Trophy in 1986 and led the Hurricanes to a national championship game. His powerful arm and ability to make big-time plays helped elevate Miami to elite status in the 1980s. Testaverde also had a successful NFL career, earning multiple Pro Bowl selections.

3.​

  • Legacy: Kelly helped Miami take its first major steps toward national prominence, setting the stage for future success. His strong arm and leadership earned him a Hall of Fame NFL career with the Buffalo Bills. While Kelly didn't win a national title with Miami, his impact on the program was monumental.

4.​

  • Legacy: Dorsey led Miami to a national championship in 2001 and an undefeated season. He was known for his game management, football IQ, and leadership. Dorsey became one of the most successful QBs in program history, and while his NFL career didn’t pan out as expected, his college success is undeniable.

5.​

  • Legacy: In a stunning turn of events, Ward transferred to Miami in 2024 and immediately made his mark by breaking multiple single-season records. His quick adaptation to the system and impressive performances helped him capture the hearts of Miami fans. Ward’s ability to shine in such a high-profile season would certainly make him one of the top quarterbacks in the program’s storied history.

6.​

  • Legacy: Morris set several passing records at Miami during his time there. Known for his arm strength and leadership, Morris had a solid career, despite Miami not being a national contender during much of his tenure.

7.​

  • Legacy: Harris had a rollercoaster career at Miami, but he still had a major impact on the program. He was known for his strong arm and athleticism, and he helped lead Miami through a rebuilding period. Harris had a few standout seasons and is remembered for some memorable victories.

Honorable Mentions:​

  • Brock Berlin (2002–2004) – Berlin was a solid starter who helped Miami continue its dominance during the early 2000s.
  • Tate Martell (brief tenure) – While Martell’s Miami career didn’t pan out as expected, he was a highly regarded transfer that generated a lot of buzz during his time.
Miami has had numerous legendary quarterbacks who’ve shaped both the program and college football. Each of these QBs left their mark in different ways, and with the success of quarterbacks like Cam Ward, the future of Miami football looks promising as well.

Which of these QBs stands out the most to you, or is there anyone you would add to the list?
 
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