Cover 2 man NOW!

[5Ringz]

**** the world!

 

[cane33]

You clearly don't understand defensive schemes well.

With our DL we'd give up 400 passing yds per game playing cover 2 man. Because our DL gets zero pass rush It'll be our young corners trying to cover WRs and TEs for 5 to 6 seconds every play while the QB has all day to sit in the pocket untouched and pick us apart.

We could have Darrelle Revis and Champ Bailey in our secondary and it wouldn't matter in that scheme with our lack of defensive pressure.

Do you even know what cover 2 means? 2 Safeties each covering one half of the field and making sure nobody beats them deep. So you want Vaughn Telemaque and Kacy Rodgers being stuck on islands by themselves trying to defend halves of the field for 5+ seconds by themselves? LOL

 

[CaneHammer]

No. What I think you want is a one gap attacking defense and who gives a **** whether it is 3-4/4-3. From there you can decide zone or man behind it.

 

[CanesAreAble]

No. What I think you want is a one gap attacking defense and who gives a **** whether it is 3-4/4-3. From there you can decide zone or man behind it.

Perhaps that's a solution. But the flip side is the coaches want to run a two-gap scheme, so the players are going to have to learn it at some point.

Hopefully they get better as the year goes on.

 

[1CN]

No. What I think you want is a one gap attacking defense and who gives a **** whether it is 3-4/4-3. From there you can decide zone or man behind it.

we've a winner!!!!!!!!!
you know your football

UNFORTUNATELY our DT are not very good ...

 

[CaneHammer]

No. What I think you want is a one gap attacking defense and who gives a **** whether it is 3-4/4-3. From there you can decide zone or man behind it.

Perhaps that's a solution. But the flip side is the coaches want to run a two-gap scheme, so the players are going to have to learn it at some point.

Hopefully they get better as the year goes on.

That is great and all IF you are sending LBs or DBs to force the action. Sitting back like we are has turned our defense into a 7 on 7 with the qb having the ability to run. This is why everyone thinks Chick and the others appear to be underachieving. That is also why we generate zero pass rush. Compound this fact is our guys have zero moves developed based off the fact they are slow off of the ball and engaging from the snap.

 

[5Ringz]

You clearly don't understand defensive schemes well.

With our DL we'd give up 400 passing yds per game playing cover 2 man. Because our DL gets zero pass rush It'll be our young corners trying to cover WRs and TEs for 5 to 6 seconds every play while the QB has all day to sit in the pocket untouched and pick us apart.

We could have Darrelle Revis and Champ Bailey in our secondary and it wouldn't matter in that scheme with our lack of defensive pressure.

Do you even know what cover 2 means? 2 Safeties each covering one half of the field and making sure nobody beats them deep. So you want Vaughn Telemaque and Kacy Rodgers being stuck on islands by themselves trying to defend halves of the field for 5+ seconds by themselves? LOL

Follow the board rules.

 

[1CN]

No. What I think you want is a one gap attacking defense and who gives a **** whether it is 3-4/4-3. From there you can decide zone or man behind it.

Perhaps that's a solution. But the flip side is the coaches want to run a two-gap scheme, so the players are going to have to learn it at some point.

Hopefully they get better as the year goes on.

Why is Porter getting penetration and not Smith ,Pierre or etc.

IMO, I bet Porter per-determinate his Gap and attack it
if he choose the wrong gap ,he's still in the opponent backfield

Where Pierre or Smith trying to shock and shake offense lineman and some time double teams

 

[blackvern]

only teams that beat our cover 2 man are teams with good wideouts and a qb that can throw

BC and K Stats are not those teams

 

[CaneHammer]

No. What I think you want is a one gap attacking defense and who gives a **** whether it is 3-4/4-3. From there you can decide zone or man behind it.

we've a winner!!!!!!!!!
you know your football

UNFORTUNATELY our DT are not very good ...

I disagree. They (DTs) are adequate. Not saying there are any too special. But they all appear slow off of the ball cause they are engaging the OLineman. Anyone noticed we have **** for holding calls on the opposition so far?

If you are going to use the D line to contain, you still need someone that forces the action one way or the other. You want to watch a defense that can play two gap and "picket fence" like Golden and Coach D are wanting, watch Bama. This style also means you need guys who are strong enough and technically sound enough to shed blockers once engaged. If you watch our guys, they suck donkey balls at this. You draw from that what you want. QBs should have no more than 2.5 F'N seconds to get rid of the ball.

Apologies for my small rant. All I have seen so far is they are asking guys to do stuff they are absolutely atrocious at. It frustrates me that they ask them to do something and let them repeatedly fail at.

 

[CaneHammer]

only teams that beat our cover 2 man are teams with good wideouts and a qb that can throw

BC and K Stats are not those teams

BS. Mobile QBS and crossing routes used to give that defenses fits as well.

 

[CanesAreAble]

only teams that beat our cover 2 man are teams with good wideouts and a qb that can throw

BC and K Stats are not those teams

Cover 2 man also leaves you susceptible to QB draws. It also forces LBs to be able to cover RBs out of the backfield. Guys like Cornelius and Gaines have looked horrible defending the flat. You also have DBs with their backs turned to the line of scrimmage, so your front better be able to control the running game, or things get ugly in the second level.

There is no magical schematic fix for a crap defense.

I'm not saying people's ideas for adjustments we should make are without merit, but I think we can only expect so much.

 

[JHallCanes]

You clearly don't understand defensive schemes well.

With our DL we'd give up 400 passing yds per game playing cover 2 man. Because our DL gets zero pass rush It'll be our young corners trying to cover WRs and TEs for 5 to 6 seconds every play while the QB has all day to sit in the pocket untouched and pick us apart.

We could have Darrelle Revis and Champ Bailey in our secondary and it wouldn't matter in that scheme with our lack of defensive pressure.

Do you even know what cover 2 means? 2 Safeties each covering one half of the field and making sure nobody beats them deep. So you want Vaughn Telemaque and Kacy Rodgers being stuck on islands by themselves trying to defend halves of the field for 5+ seconds by themselves? LOL

Bye a clew moran

You started the thread, Ringz. Defend your position or keep quiet.

 

[1CN]

No. What I think you want is a one gap attacking defense and who gives a **** whether it is 3-4/4-3. From there you can decide zone or man behind it.

we've a winner!!!!!!!!!
you know your football

UNFORTUNATELY our DT are not very good ...

I disagree. They (DTs) are adequate. Not saying there are any too special. But they all appear slow off of the ball cause they are engaging the OLineman. Anyone noticed we have **** for holding calls on the opposition so far?

If you are going to use the D line to contain, you still need someone that forces the action one way or the other. You want to watch a defense that can play two gap and "picket fence" like Golden and Coach D are wanting, watch Bama. This style also means you need guys who are strong enough and technically sound enough to shed blockers once engaged. If you watch our guys, they suck donkey balls at this. You draw from that what you want. QBs should have no more than 2.5 F'N seconds to get rid of the ball.

Apologies for my small rant. All I have seen so far is they are asking guys to do stuff they are absolutely atrocious at. It frustrates me that they ask them to do something and let them repeatedly fail at.

With post like this Hammer
I think I'm going to remove you from my friends list,JK

OUR DT cannot execute what their been recruit to do

Let look at Bama DT shock,shake and stick
OUR DT are just as big ,just as tall ,but a whole lot less talented

We have yet to collaspe the pocket ,F**K the run defense
Ever on passing down when the offesive-line are retreating to pass block

Our DT are getting push back in one on one ,lol

Smith former juco with limited offers
Pierre recruited by Temple and AL
Gimble 5 star entered the program 17
we could ever red-shirt the kid..
Moore a FR. playing against 22 men

What kind of picture is this ?
If Bama DT are mona lisa
Then our DT are (you get the ideal)

 

[5Ringz]

You clearly don't understand defensive schemes well.

With our DL we'd give up 400 passing yds per game playing cover 2 man. Because our DL gets zero pass rush It'll be our young corners trying to cover WRs and TEs for 5 to 6 seconds every play while the QB has all day to sit in the pocket untouched and pick us apart.

We could have Darrelle Revis and Champ Bailey in our secondary and it wouldn't matter in that scheme with our lack of defensive pressure.

Do you even know what cover 2 means? 2 Safeties each covering one half of the field and making sure nobody beats them deep. So you want Vaughn Telemaque and Kacy Rodgers being stuck on islands by themselves trying to defend halves of the field for 5+ seconds by themselves? LOL

Bye a clew moran

You started the thread, Ringz. Defend your position or keep quiet.

Obvious overreaction thread is not so obvious?


But seriously could it be any worse than what we are doing right now?

 

[CaneHammer]

No. What I think you want is a one gap attacking defense and who gives a **** whether it is 3-4/4-3. From there you can decide zone or man behind it.

we've a winner!!!!!!!!!
you know your football

UNFORTUNATELY our DT are not very good ...

I disagree. They (DTs) are adequate. Not saying there are any too special. But they all appear slow off of the ball cause they are engaging the OLineman. Anyone noticed we have **** for holding calls on the opposition so far?

If you are going to use the D line to contain, you still need someone that forces the action one way or the other. You want to watch a defense that can play two gap and "picket fence" like Golden and Coach D are wanting, watch Bama. This style also means you need guys who are strong enough and technically sound enough to shed blockers once engaged. If you watch our guys, they suck donkey balls at this. You draw from that what you want. QBs should have no more than 2.5 F'N seconds to get rid of the ball.

Apologies for my small rant. All I have seen so far is they are asking guys to do stuff they are absolutely atrocious at. It frustrates me that they ask them to do something and let them repeatedly fail at.

With post like this Hammer
I think I'm going to remove you from my friends list,JK

OUR DT cannot excuse what their been recruit to do

Let look at Bama
DT shock,shake and stick
OUR DT are just as big ,just as tall ,but a whole lot less talented

We have yet to collaspe the pocket ,F**K the run defense
Ever on passing down when the offesive-line are retreating to pass block

Our DT are getting push back in one on one ,lol

Smith former juco with limited offers
Pierre recruited by Temple and AL
Gimble 5 star entered the program 17
we could ever red-shirt the kid..
Moore a FR. playing against 22 men

What kind of picture is this ?
If Bama DT are mona lisa
Then our DT are (you get the ideal)

LOL. No worries. I am saying our guys are not good enough to play 2 gap. I should have been clearer with my statement saying they are adequate enough to play one gap. Then it is a friggin' race to the gap once the ball is snapped.

 

[JHallCanes]

You clearly don't understand defensive schemes well.

With our DL we'd give up 400 passing yds per game playing cover 2 man. Because our DL gets zero pass rush It'll be our young corners trying to cover WRs and TEs for 5 to 6 seconds every play while the QB has all day to sit in the pocket untouched and pick us apart.

We could have Darrelle Revis and Champ Bailey in our secondary and it wouldn't matter in that scheme with our lack of defensive pressure.

Do you even know what cover 2 means? 2 Safeties each covering one half of the field and making sure nobody beats them deep. So you want Vaughn Telemaque and Kacy Rodgers being stuck on islands by themselves trying to defend halves of the field for 5+ seconds by themselves? LOL

Bye a clew moran

You started the thread, Ringz. Defend your position or keep quiet.

Obvious overreaction thread is not so obvious?


But seriously could it be any worse than what we are doing right now?

I say load 10 in the box and have Tracy Howard play rover.

Like you said, it can't be any worse.

 

[BigCaneAl]

If our DT are so bad why are we asking them to control 2-gaps... Wouldn't it be better to attack one gap, wouldn't this also help our pass rush... We aren't running a 3-4 here.

 

[1CN]

If our DT are so bad why are we asking them to control 2-gaps... Wouldn't it be better to attack one gap, wouldn't this also help our pass rush... We aren't running a 3-4 here.

:drevil::drevil:

 

[FlipT]

If the defense attacks it will get pressure, they are a POA team and taking on blocks wont lead to sacks.