Chris Stock

[RVACane]

Ivins just posted this article

American Heritage Scoop
There's no question that some folks in Coral Gables think that things are trending up with five-star cornerback Patrick Surtain Jr. and trending down a bit with five-star cornerback Tyson Campbell. A trusted source said that the Hurricanes were somewhat surprised to see Surtain Jr. on campus last week for the men's basketball game against Duke, but at the same time not all that shocked as the U.S. Army All-American has been very receptive to recent conversations with Mike Rumph.

Both Rumph and Manny Diaz conducted an in-home visit with the Surtain family on Wednesday night. The buzz coming out of that meeting is that the Hurricanes will likely get Surtain Jr. on campus for an official visit the weekend before National Signing Day although that date isn't exactly locked in yet. One thing to note however is that Kerry Coombs (Surtain's primary recruiter at Ohio State) just accepted an NFL job which might take the Buckeyes out the running for an official visit in these final two weeks.

As for Campbell the folks at UM still remain optimistic. The plan as of early Wednesday morning is for the U.S. Army All-American to be on campus the weekend of Feb. 2 with his parents. Miami has saved the in-home visit with Mark Richt for next week and one contact connected to the recruitment thinks that could play a huge factor in the decision process. Remember last cycle Kai-Leon Herbert was dead-set on signing with Michigan until Richt sat in his living room and changed his mind. Georgia continues to feel good about where things stand.

Those close to Top300 linebacker/defensive end Andrew Chatfield believe that he remains torn between Miami and Florida. The good news however might be the fact that both of his parents want him at UM. Some also think that Ja'Juan Seider's decision to leave Dan Mullen's staff could ultimately swing things in favor of the Hurricanes as he was heavily involved in Chatfield's recruitment. Which also might be the case when it comes to Nesta Silvera. The Top100 defensive tackle spent this past weekend in Gainesville, but we have yet to hear anything that suggests he's wavering on his verbal pledge to Miami. He's expected to join Campbell in Coral Gables next weekend. We heard that Rumph and Diaz got plenty of face time with mom at AMH on Wednesday.

The parent thing is irrelevant.

ALL of their parents want them to stay home. If parents play a big part in their decisions then we'll get all 4.

Dude, I've been with you as far as smh at guys attacking you for bringing information to the board as you've been here a long time and have real coaching contacts being a coach yourself.

That said, you blanketly think all parents are irrelevant in these decisions? How well do you know the relationships and dynamics in each of these families?

No, my man, I'm not saying parents don't matter. I'm saying that him mentioning that the parents want them to stay home is irrelevant. (because all of their parents want them to stay home)

Know what I'm trying to say?

He's using that as a bit of positive info regarding Chatfield, but you could say the same thing for all of their parents. (yet we're still hearing that they're leaning elsewhere)

Knowing what we know, it APPEARS that the parents desires aren't playing a major role in their decisions. If it was then they'd all be Miami leans.

Yeah. I appreciate all the info you bring. I knew there would be a bunch of chaos and confusion in the final Sprint so I'm in wait and see mode with the final visits and then NSD.

I'm hoping Franchise is right about this. It's weird to see talk of Nesta flipping to the 3-4 Gaytors and Chatfield picking them too. Were that to happen, there would need to be changes made on the defensive side of recruiting. No way around it but I'm not going there unless we fail on NSD. Hopefully we will be good.

 

[hoops156]

the only thing i question is why would anyone tell a known message board poster any real info? if it were me, id just say throw some bull**** out there to **** with you. TC, PS2, Nesta, Chat have handled their recruitment pretty well and suddenly now theyre going to do this talking to a dude they know will leak info? everyone seems to have diff info, but none of it with confirms with what OP has said. even with his in home stuff, ivins update literally says the opposite of the OP didnt want to say.

 

[hoops156]

Ivins just posted this article

American Heritage Scoop
There's no question that some folks in Coral Gables think that things are trending up with five-star cornerback Patrick Surtain Jr. and trending down a bit with five-star cornerback Tyson Campbell. A trusted source said that the Hurricanes were somewhat surprised to see Surtain Jr. on campus last week for the men's basketball game against Duke, but at the same time not all that shocked as the U.S. Army All-American has been very receptive to recent conversations with Mike Rumph.

Both Rumph and Manny Diaz conducted an in-home visit with the Surtain family on Wednesday night. The buzz coming out of that meeting is that the Hurricanes will likely get Surtain Jr. on campus for an official visit the weekend before National Signing Day although that date isn't exactly locked in yet. One thing to note however is that Kerry Coombs (Surtain's primary recruiter at Ohio State) just accepted an NFL job which might take the Buckeyes out the running for an official visit in these final two weeks.

As for Campbell the folks at UM still remain optimistic. The plan as of early Wednesday morning is for the U.S. Army All-American to be on campus the weekend of Feb. 2 with his parents. Miami has saved the in-home visit with Mark Richt for next week and one contact connected to the recruitment thinks that could play a huge factor in the decision process. Remember last cycle Kai-Leon Herbert was dead-set on signing with Michigan until Richt sat in his living room and changed his mind. Georgia continues to feel good about where things stand.

Those close to Top300 linebacker/defensive end Andrew Chatfield believe that he remains torn between Miami and Florida. The good news however might be the fact that both of his parents want him at UM. Some also think that Ja'Juan Seider's decision to leave Dan Mullen's staff could ultimately swing things in favor of the Hurricanes as he was heavily involved in Chatfield's recruitment. Which also might be the case when it comes to Nesta Silvera. The Top100 defensive tackle spent this past weekend in Gainesville, but we have yet to hear anything that suggests he's wavering on his verbal pledge to Miami. He's expected to join Campbell in Coral Gables next weekend. We heard that Rumph and Diaz got plenty of face time with mom at AMH on Wednesday.

The parent thing is irrelevant.

ALL of their parents want them to stay home. If parents play a big part in their decisions then we'll get all 4.

Dude, I've been with you as far as smh at guys attacking you for bringing information to the board as you've been here a long time and have real coaching contacts being a coach yourself.

That said, you blanketly think all parents are irrelevant in these decisions? How well do you know the relationships and dynamics in each of these families?

No, my man, I'm not saying parents don't matter. I'm saying that him mentioning that the parents want them to stay home is irrelevant. (because all of their parents want them to stay home)

Know what I'm trying to say?

He's using that as a bit of positive info regarding Chatfield, but you could say the same thing for all of their parents. (yet we're still hearing that they're leaning elsewhere)

Knowing what we know, it APPEARS that the parents desires aren't playing a major role in their decisions. If it was then they'd all be Miami leans.

Yeah. I appreciate all the info you bring. I knew there would be a bunch of chaos and confusion in the final Sprint so I'm in wait and see mode with the final visits and then NSD.

I'm hoping Franchise is right about this. It's weird to see talk of Nesta flipping to the 3-4 Gaytors and Chatfield picking them too. Were that to happen, there would need to be changes made in the defensive side of recruiting. No way around it but I'm not going there unless we fail on NSD.

i havent seen nesta talk ANYWHERE but macho. they just visited him yesterday and ivins update is the complete opposite of what macho was suggesting.

 

[Coach Macho]

LOL - wrong...not ALL parents want their kids to stay home

Nobody said that. SMH
Holy **** you guys are incredible.


THE HERITAGE 4...


THEIR PARENTS WANT THEM TO STAY HOME.

 

[Coach Macho]

The parent thing is irrelevant.

ALL of their parents want them to stay home. If parents play a big part in their decisions then we'll get all 4.

Dude, I've been with you as far as smh at guys attacking you for bringing information to the board as you've been here a long time and have real coaching contacts being a coach yourself.

That said, you blanketly think all parents are irrelevant in these decisions? How well do you know the relationships and dynamics in each of these families?

No, my man, I'm not saying parents don't matter. I'm saying that him mentioning that the parents want them to stay home is irrelevant. (because all of their parents want them to stay home)

Know what I'm trying to say?

He's using that as a bit of positive info regarding Chatfield, but you could say the same thing for all of their parents. (yet we're still hearing that they're leaning elsewhere)

Knowing what we know, it APPEARS that the parents desires aren't playing a major role in their decisions. If it was then they'd all be Miami leans.

Yeah. I appreciate all the info you bring. I knew there would be a bunch of chaos and confusion in the final Sprint so I'm in wait and see mode with the final visits and then NSD.

I'm hoping Franchise is right about this. It's weird to see talk of Nesta flipping to the 3-4 Gaytors and Chatfield picking them too. Were that to happen, there would need to be changes made in the defensive side of recruiting. No way around it but I'm not going there unless we fail on NSD.

i havent seen nesta talk ANYWHERE but macho. they just visited him yesterday and ivins update is the complete opposite of what macho was suggesting.

Macho didn't suggest anything. Macho posted a text message from his buddy who coaches at AH.

 

[Coach Macho]

the only thing i question is why would anyone tell a known message board poster any real info? if it were me, id just say throw some bull**** out there to **** with you. TC, PS2, Nesta, Chat have handled their recruitment pretty well and suddenly now theyre going to do this talking to a dude they know will leak info? everyone seems to have diff info, but none of it with confirms with what OP has said. even with his in home stuff, ivins update literally says the opposite of the OP didnt want to say.

You think they knew that their coach would tell me info and then I would leak it to the board?

LOL. How?

 

[dfagundo]

the only thing i question is why would anyone tell a known message board poster any real info? if it were me, id just say throw some bull**** out there to **** with you. TC, PS2, Nesta, Chat have handled their recruitment pretty well and suddenly now theyre going to do this talking to a dude they know will leak info? everyone seems to have diff info, but none of it with confirms with what OP has said. even with his in home stuff, ivins update literally says the opposite of the OP didnt want to say.

You think they knew that their coach would tell me info and then I would leak it to the board?

LOL. How?

ESP.

 

[hoops156]

the only thing i question is why would anyone tell a known message board poster any real info? if it were me, id just say throw some bull**** out there to **** with you. TC, PS2, Nesta, Chat have handled their recruitment pretty well and suddenly now theyre going to do this talking to a dude they know will leak info? everyone seems to have diff info, but none of it with confirms with what OP has said. even with his in home stuff, ivins update literally says the opposite of the OP didnt want to say.

You think they knew that their coach would tell me info and then I would leak it to the board?

LOL. How?

you dont think they read the board and can figure out where the info is coming from?

 

[Coach Macho]

the only thing i question is why would anyone tell a known message board poster any real info? if it were me, id just say throw some bull**** out there to **** with you. TC, PS2, Nesta, Chat have handled their recruitment pretty well and suddenly now theyre going to do this talking to a dude they know will leak info? everyone seems to have diff info, but none of it with confirms with what OP has said. even with his in home stuff, ivins update literally says the opposite of the OP didnt want to say.

You think they knew that their coach would tell me info and then I would leak it to the board?

LOL. How?

you dont think they read the board and can figure out where the info is coming from?

Good theory. Let's go with that.

That's optimistic.

 

[Coach Macho]

FWIW, I don't take the Nesta news seriously.

Even if he said that to my guy, I doubt it was serious. That kid plays around a lot.

 

[mjarv21]

Beardy getting sucked in by the AH smokescreen. Now, even Nesta is trying to fool people into thinking he’s legit considering that dump UF to be a block eater in a 3-4.

These dudes are coming to UM. It gets more clear the more they mess with people to throw them off the trail.

I shared your same sentiments earlier today in another thread. Below is my post

"If Nesta indeed told Macho's source that he is thinking about flipping to Florida, that really confirms it for me that AH4 is definitely together on the "trolling" act. I absolutely love it! THERE IS NO WAY THAT NESTA WILL FLIP TO FLORIDA.

You can label me as a homer or me just being naive, but I think these guys have methodically masterminded a trolling scheme, in which it is clearly working to perfection. I think the second Chatfield received his offer from Miami, the reality of all 4 of them playing together in college, was no longer just a pipe dream.

I'm looking forward to seeing all 4 of them don Miami hats on 02/07."

I didn't see that, Poet. But I agree with it completely. It's exactly the way I see it.

We know Nesta reads this forum. And we know he saw Beardy's "Le Work" post where Beardy revealed a bunch of secrets that the kids told the Heritage DL coach.

Does anyone with half a brain think Nesta would then confide secrets with that same guy who is spewing info to Beardy? These dudes are playing all the info hounds.

To go along with this, didn't Nesta have some comment about the guys signing early about it being a "lifetime decision" and was giving the early signees srap about signing in Dec. Someone that knows this will effect the rest of your life isn't going to go to UF right now.

 

[RVACane]

We will find out soon enough guys.

 

[moshated305]

I’ll trust Ivins sources over stock on this

Agreed, Stock is beyond negative on everything. I used to be a member over there before they joined 247 and I left because he and that Rudy dude never had anything positive to say about Miami. And neither one had legit recruiting sources. They let canevette run the board with his BS.

 

[AllAboutTheU]

I’ll trust Ivins sources over stock on this

Agreed, Stock is beyond negative on everything. I used to be a member over there before they joined 247 and I left because he and that Rudy dude never had anything positive to say about Miami. And neither one had legit recruiting sources. They let canevette run the board with his BS.

Stock is horrible. Don't know that I've seen him break any Canes news over the last five years.

 

[Coach Macho]

If you post "inside info" and it's good news, everybody loves it.
Post some bad inside info and you immediately become a bad guy and an unreliable source.

We weren't getting trolled by the kids when the news was optimistic, now all of a sudden a group of teenagers has developed a master prank to get UM fans riled up.


How about this...

Be a grown man and stop acting like over-emotional little girls over the decisions of teenage kids. It's sad how worked up this **** gets some of you guys. Take every piece of information with a grain of salt, understand that recruiting is fluid, and let **** play out.

 

[reg]

Ivins just posted this article

American Heritage Scoop
There's no question that some folks in Coral Gables think that things are trending up with five-star cornerback Patrick Surtain Jr. and trending down a bit with five-star cornerback Tyson Campbell. A trusted source said that the Hurricanes were somewhat surprised to see Surtain Jr. on campus last week for the men's basketball game against Duke, but at the same time not all that shocked as the U.S. Army All-American has been very receptive to recent conversations with Mike Rumph.

Both Rumph and Manny Diaz conducted an in-home visit with the Surtain family on Wednesday night. The buzz coming out of that meeting is that the Hurricanes will likely get Surtain Jr. on campus for an official visit the weekend before National Signing Day although that date isn't exactly locked in yet. One thing to note however is that Kerry Coombs (Surtain's primary recruiter at Ohio State) just accepted an NFL job which might take the Buckeyes out the running for an official visit in these final two weeks.

As for Campbell the folks at UM still remain optimistic. The plan as of early Wednesday morning is for the U.S. Army All-American to be on campus the weekend of Feb. 2 with his parents. Miami has saved the in-home visit with Mark Richt for next week and one contact connected to the recruitment thinks that could play a huge factor in the decision process. Remember last cycle Kai-Leon Herbert was dead-set on signing with Michigan until Richt sat in his living room and changed his mind. Georgia continues to feel good about where things stand.

Those close to Top300 linebacker/defensive end Andrew Chatfield believe that he remains torn between Miami and Florida. The good news however might be the fact that both of his parents want him at UM. Some also think that Ja'Juan Seider's decision to leave Dan Mullen's staff could ultimately swing things in favor of the Hurricanes as he was heavily involved in Chatfield's recruitment. Which also might be the case when it comes to Nesta Silvera. The Top100 defensive tackle spent this past weekend in Gainesville, but we have yet to hear anything that suggests he's wavering on his verbal pledge to Miami. He's expected to join Campbell in Coral Gables next weekend. We heard that Rumph and Diaz got plenty of face time with mom at AMH on Wednesday.

The parent thing is irrelevant.

ALL of their parents want them to stay home. If parents play a big part in their decisions then we'll get all 4.

So, parents are irrelevant in the kids decision making process? But in other post, you've mentioned that coaches, including yourself, know everything about their players. By that logic, are you saying coaches are more relevant than the parents? If so, that in a nutshell, is the problem with the recruiting world of South Florida. That's exactly how these kids get manipulated and taken advantage of, over and over again. I'm not coming at you, I just want to know.

I never said parents are irrelevant in the decision making process. Read my last post regarding that issue.

I saw it. I posted prior to reading your post. Like I mentioned, my intent was not to come at you. Just wanted to understand what you were suggesting. Thanks for clarifying.

On a different note, I think your guy is getting trolled pretty hard.

We shall see in a couple of weeks.

 

[The Franchise]

If you post "inside info" and it's good news, everybody loves it.
Post some bad inside info and you immediately become a bad guy and an unreliable source.

We weren't getting trolled by the kids when the news was optimistic, now all of a sudden a group of teenagers has developed a master prank to get UM fans riled up.

How about this...
Be a grown man and stop acting like over-emotional little girls over the decisions of teenage kids. It's sad how worked up this **** gets some of you guys. Take every piece of information with a grain of salt, understand that recruiting is fluid, and let **** play out.

The only one getting emotional is you. Grab some high-quality beard oil and pamper yourself with a nice conditioning treatment. I'd suggest something with a little soothing peppermint oil to relax you.

Anyone with even a scintilla of intelligence realizes your positive info and negative info is just chatter. There's nothing really there of any substance on the positive or negative tip. Some of us are discussing where we stand with the recruits and proposing our own theories. The fact that we aren't automatically accepting everything you're telling us as gospel doesn't mean we're overly emotional.

 

[brock]

Surtain visiting Clemson this weekend

 

[hoops156]

Surtain visiting Clemson this weekend

good news for us.

 

[305Cane]

Been said cuz let the cat outta the bag. They didn't want nobody to know what was going on. I already heard things was being done on the low. They all talked about playing together, and this is close to being real.