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They need to take that turnover chain with them on the in-home visits let TC and Surtain try it on in front of their families
 
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All i will say is last year we were in a similar situation with a couple of recruits, but we were the perceived leader going into the final two weeks. I said it before i think were in a good position this year to close instead of fending off suitors.
 
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There's no question that some folks in Coral Gables think that things are trending up with five-star cornerback Patrick Surtain Jr. and trending down a bit with five-star cornerback Tyson Campbell. A trusted source said that the Hurricanes were somewhat surprised to see Surtain Jr. on campus last week for the men's basketball game against Duke, but at the same time not all that shocked as the U.S. Army All-American has been very receptive to recent conversations with Mike Rumph.

Both Rumph and Manny Diaz conducted an in-home visit with the Surtain family on Wednesday night. The buzz coming out of that meeting is that the Hurricanes will likely get Surtain Jr. on campus for an official visit the weekend before National Signing Day although that date isn't exactly locked in yet. One thing to note however is that Kerry Coombs (Surtain's primary recruiter at Ohio State) just accepted an NFL job which might take the Buckeyes out the running for an official visit in these final two weeks.

As for Campbell the folks at UM still remain optimistic. The plan as of early Wednesday morning is for the U.S. Army All-American to be on campus the weekend of Feb. 2 with his parents. Miami has saved the in-home visit with Mark Richt for next week and one contact connected to the recruitment thinks that could play a huge factor in the decision process. Remember last cycle Kai-Leon Herbert was dead-set on signing with Michigan until Richt sat in his living room and changed his mind. Georgia continues to feel good about where things stand.

Those close to Top300 linebacker/defensive end Andrew Chatfield believe that he remains torn between Miami and Florida. The good news however might be the fact that both of his parents want him at UM. Some also think that Ja'Juan Seider's decision to leave Dan Mullen's staff could ultimately swing things in favor of the Hurricanes as he was heavily involved in Chatfield's recruitment. Which also might be the case when it comes to Nesta Silvera. The Top100 defensive tackle spent this past weekend in Gainesville, but we have yet to hear anything that suggests he's wavering on his verbal pledge to Miami. He's expected to join Campbell in Coral Gables next weekend. We heard that Rumph and Diaz got plenty of face time with mom at AMH on Wednesday.

There is literally no new information here.
 
Beardy getting sucked in by the AH smokescreen. Now, even Nesta is trying to fool people into thinking he’s legit considering that dump UF to be a block eater in a 3-4.

These dudes are coming to UM. It gets more clear the more they mess with people to throw them off the trail.
 
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Ivins just posted this article

American Heritage Scoop
There's no question that some folks in Coral Gables think that things are trending up with five-star cornerback Patrick Surtain Jr. and trending down a bit with five-star cornerback Tyson Campbell. A trusted source said that the Hurricanes were somewhat surprised to see Surtain Jr. on campus last week for the men's basketball game against Duke, but at the same time not all that shocked as the U.S. Army All-American has been very receptive to recent conversations with Mike Rumph.

Both Rumph and Manny Diaz conducted an in-home visit with the Surtain family on Wednesday night. The buzz coming out of that meeting is that the Hurricanes will likely get Surtain Jr. on campus for an official visit the weekend before National Signing Day although that date isn't exactly locked in yet. One thing to note however is that Kerry Coombs (Surtain's primary recruiter at Ohio State) just accepted an NFL job which might take the Buckeyes out the running for an official visit in these final two weeks.

As for Campbell the folks at UM still remain optimistic. The plan as of early Wednesday morning is for the U.S. Army All-American to be on campus the weekend of Feb. 2 with his parents. Miami has saved the in-home visit with Mark Richt for next week and one contact connected to the recruitment thinks that could play a huge factor in the decision process. Remember last cycle Kai-Leon Herbert was dead-set on signing with Michigan until Richt sat in his living room and changed his mind. Georgia continues to feel good about where things stand.

Those close to Top300 linebacker/defensive end Andrew Chatfield believe that he remains torn between Miami and Florida. The good news however might be the fact that both of his parents want him at UM. Some also think that Ja'Juan Seider's decision to leave Dan Mullen's staff could ultimately swing things in favor of the Hurricanes as he was heavily involved in Chatfield's recruitment. Which also might be the case when it comes to Nesta Silvera. The Top100 defensive tackle spent this past weekend in Gainesville, but we have yet to hear anything that suggests he's wavering on his verbal pledge to Miami. He's expected to join Campbell in Coral Gables next weekend. We heard that Rumph and Diaz got plenty of face time with mom at AMH on Wednesday.

I believe Ivins all day over Stock especially when Ivins nevrr rrally makes statements until it's concrete

Ivins is Pete's biggest "competition" as it relates to Canes news. Like I said earlier in this thread, I'll take what Pete or Ivins says 11 times out of 10 over Stock who's known to cling onto something negative and run with it.

Pete has more volume IMO as far as what is going on inside the program and the recruits but Ivins to me drops the mic especially around this time. Stock is one of the ******** who will say anything for shock value
 
One more note: a couple of weeks ago I met Syracuse CB Juwon Dowels (former AH player and Broward Defensive Player of the Year who F A G didn't recruit) and Juwon and his father told me that he is leaving Syracuse, will have a degree soon, and would like to transfer to UM to play under Rumph. Dowels is a great cover corner, but had some injuries at SU and didn't have the career he had envisioned. I haven't heard anything about this on this board (I figured Beardy would have said something about it), so I guess nothing will come of it.

He's been communicating with Rumph, who loves him, but nothing has come of it yet.
 
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Chad Wilson?

This was my guess.

If it´s really him, the situation becomes clearer

Chad Wilson is their DC.

Chad WAS their DC. He resigned as soon as they won the State Championship game this past season. Daryl Porter is their new DC.

I guess what I’m having a hard time understanding is how an assistant coach at AH knows all the comings and goings at the Surtain house in such detail, what’s said there, and what the AH4 are saying and feeling in such detail and specificity - when they’re not spilling it to anybody else.

It’s just a real head scratcher for me.

You're shocked that they confide more in their coaches than anybody else? LOL

Do you have any idea how much these kids share with us?

You're talking about a guy who drives the kids home on occasion.
Like, what do you think coaches do, just leave practice and go straight home without ever talking to the kids? I know **** near everything that goes on in my player's lives, especially if they play on my side of the ball.
 
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American Heritage Scoop
There's no question that some folks in Coral Gables think that things are trending up with five-star cornerback Patrick Surtain Jr. and trending down a bit with five-star cornerback Tyson Campbell. A trusted source said that the Hurricanes were somewhat surprised to see Surtain Jr. on campus last week for the men's basketball game against Duke, but at the same time not all that shocked as the U.S. Army All-American has been very receptive to recent conversations with Mike Rumph.

Both Rumph and Manny Diaz conducted an in-home visit with the Surtain family on Wednesday night. The buzz coming out of that meeting is that the Hurricanes will likely get Surtain Jr. on campus for an official visit the weekend before National Signing Day although that date isn't exactly locked in yet. One thing to note however is that Kerry Coombs (Surtain's primary recruiter at Ohio State) just accepted an NFL job which might take the Buckeyes out the running for an official visit in these final two weeks.

As for Campbell the folks at UM still remain optimistic. The plan as of early Wednesday morning is for the U.S. Army All-American to be on campus the weekend of Feb. 2 with his parents. Miami has saved the in-home visit with Mark Richt for next week and one contact connected to the recruitment thinks that could play a huge factor in the decision process. Remember last cycle Kai-Leon Herbert was dead-set on signing with Michigan until Richt sat in his living room and changed his mind. Georgia continues to feel good about where things stand.

Those close to Top300 linebacker/defensive end Andrew Chatfield believe that he remains torn between Miami and Florida. The good news however might be the fact that both of his parents want him at UM. Some also think that Ja'Juan Seider's decision to leave Dan Mullen's staff could ultimately swing things in favor of the Hurricanes as he was heavily involved in Chatfield's recruitment. Which also might be the case when it comes to Nesta Silvera. The Top100 defensive tackle spent this past weekend in Gainesville, but we have yet to hear anything that suggests he's wavering on his verbal pledge to Miami. He's expected to join Campbell in Coral Gables next weekend. We heard that Rumph and Diaz got plenty of face time with mom at AMH on Wednesday.

The parent thing is irrelevant.

ALL of their parents want them to stay home. If parents play a big part in their decisions then we'll get all 4.
 
Did Macho have sources during Herbert and Slaton recruitments last year? I don't remember him bringing a constant stream of information to the board last year around this time. Why are the Heritage coaches all of sudden so talkative?

Their recruitment wasn't the "event" that the Chatfield/Silvera/Surtain/Campbell recruitment has been. Didn't feel the need to talk to him about them last year.

If that is your reasoning so be it, but plenty of people were interested in whether we would continue to completely whiff at Heritage during the last cycle. Nesta must really love Florida or have another visit planned this week that hasn't been announced yet because he doesn't appear to be a 3-4 DT.

The Herbert/Slaton recruitment didn't have this much drama. I talked to him after they committed to ask him how good they were, but that's it.

This is a total different situation.

Your full of complete cr@p! You didn’t say anything last year because you didn’t know anything. There was hella drama on here if we were gonna get the AH o lineman and you were nowhere to be found. Obviously cane hater chad Wilson is your source which as skewed as it gets. Get out of here with your fake sources! It’s funny how Pete, Ivan’s, lake or stock haven’t said any of this bs your spewing about Nesta. Fake news!
 
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Beardy getting sucked in by the AH smokescreen. Now, even Nesta is trying to fool people into thinking he’s legit considering that dump UF to be a block eater in a 3-4.

These dudes are coming to UM. It gets more clear the more they mess with people to throw them off the trail.

You're saying that they're messing with their own coach?

Ok.

That would be great.
 
Did Macho have sources during Herbert and Slaton recruitments last year? I don't remember him bringing a constant stream of information to the board last year around this time. Why are the Heritage coaches all of sudden so talkative?

Their recruitment wasn't the "event" that the Chatfield/Silvera/Surtain/Campbell recruitment has been. Didn't feel the need to talk to him about them last year.

If that is your reasoning so be it, but plenty of people were interested in whether we would continue to completely whiff at Heritage during the last cycle. Nesta must really love Florida or have another visit planned this week that hasn't been announced yet because he doesn't appear to be a 3-4 DT.

The Herbert/Slaton recruitment didn't have this much drama. I talked to him after they committed to ask him how good they were, but that's it.

This is a total different situation.

Your full of complete cr@p! You didn’t say anything last year because you didn’t know anything. There was hella drama on here if we were gonna get the AH o lineman and you were nowhere to be found. Obviously cane hater chad Wilson is your source which as skewed as it gets. Get out of here with your fake sources! It’s funny how Pete, Ivan’s, lake or stock haven’t said any of this bs your spewing about Nesta. Fake news!

Mannnnn go take your over-emotional girl-shouldered a$$ on somewhere. Who the fvck are you anyway?
 
This was my guess.

If it´s really him, the situation becomes clearer

Chad Wilson is their DC.

Chad WAS their DC. He resigned as soon as they won the State Championship game this past season. Daryl Porter is their new DC.

I guess what I’m having a hard time understanding is how an assistant coach at AH knows all the comings and goings at the Surtain house in such detail, what’s said there, and what the AH4 are saying and feeling in such detail and specificity - when they’re not spilling it to anybody else.

It’s just a real head scratcher for me.

You're shocked that they confide more in their coaches than anybody else? LOL

Do you have any idea how much these kids share with us?

You're talking about a guy who drives the kids home on occasion.
Like, what do you think coaches do, just leave practice and go straight home without ever talking to the kids? I know **** near everything that goes on in my player's lives, especially if they play on my side of the ball.

Some kids have close relationships with their coaches outside of practice and games, and some don’t. Usually, it’s just a few. Just really depends on the kids, the coaches and the circumstances. There’s no general rule.

I wasn’t talking in generalities. I was talking specifically about these kids, because I’m surprised they’re confiding their TRUE INTENT in something I think they’re trying to keep hidden. So, yes, I’m surprised they’re giving an assistant coach the scoop but not anybody else, maybe not even their families.
 
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American Heritage Scoop
There's no question that some folks in Coral Gables think that things are trending up with five-star cornerback Patrick Surtain Jr. and trending down a bit with five-star cornerback Tyson Campbell. A trusted source said that the Hurricanes were somewhat surprised to see Surtain Jr. on campus last week for the men's basketball game against Duke, but at the same time not all that shocked as the U.S. Army All-American has been very receptive to recent conversations with Mike Rumph.

Both Rumph and Manny Diaz conducted an in-home visit with the Surtain family on Wednesday night. The buzz coming out of that meeting is that the Hurricanes will likely get Surtain Jr. on campus for an official visit the weekend before National Signing Day although that date isn't exactly locked in yet. One thing to note however is that Kerry Coombs (Surtain's primary recruiter at Ohio State) just accepted an NFL job which might take the Buckeyes out the running for an official visit in these final two weeks.

As for Campbell the folks at UM still remain optimistic. The plan as of early Wednesday morning is for the U.S. Army All-American to be on campus the weekend of Feb. 2 with his parents. Miami has saved the in-home visit with Mark Richt for next week and one contact connected to the recruitment thinks that could play a huge factor in the decision process. Remember last cycle Kai-Leon Herbert was dead-set on signing with Michigan until Richt sat in his living room and changed his mind. Georgia continues to feel good about where things stand.

Those close to Top300 linebacker/defensive end Andrew Chatfield believe that he remains torn between Miami and Florida. The good news however might be the fact that both of his parents want him at UM. Some also think that Ja'Juan Seider's decision to leave Dan Mullen's staff could ultimately swing things in favor of the Hurricanes as he was heavily involved in Chatfield's recruitment. Which also might be the case when it comes to Nesta Silvera. The Top100 defensive tackle spent this past weekend in Gainesville, but we have yet to hear anything that suggests he's wavering on his verbal pledge to Miami. He's expected to join Campbell in Coral Gables next weekend. We heard that Rumph and Diaz got plenty of face time with mom at AMH on Wednesday.

The parent thing is irrelevant.

ALL of their parents want them to stay home. If parents play a big part in their decisions then we'll get all 4.

Dude, I've been with you as far as smh at guys attacking you for bringing information to the board as you've been here a long time and have real coaching contacts being a coach yourself.

That said, you blanketly think all parents are irrelevant in these decisions? How well do you know the relationships and dynamics in each of these families?
 
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