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This is just getting ridiculous at the moment. What don't you guys understand.... What we are seeing at the plate is what we saw to finish the year last year? What we are seeing out of the pen is how we finished the year last year? If you guys want specifics I can list specifics at nauseum. But for god's sake that is beyond the point. The approach at the plate has been a fundamental issue with this program going back 10+ years... yes your point about baseball and at bat's is correct. But that is only correct for teams that have proven they can break the mold. We haven't done that in forever and I'm willing to bet a bunch of money that trend we have going for us doesn't change this year. Until we get better coaching NONE OF IT WILL CHANGE. Please stop posting these obvious *** responses. This program's issues are completely different because we haven't gotten better over the course of the year in over a decade.