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561Cane said:
Who are those 8? I also expect more to leave never getting to 85 like most successful teams...
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You are correct, most successful teams are not at 85 either.

We will sign the max number of ICs, either on National Signing Day or via the Portal.

And we will need better retention if we ever have a shot of getting close to 85.
 
Our 2020 recruiting class only has room for 6 maybe 7 guys including transfers. Some depends on Moise as well. Typically factor in 5 guys transferring out/quitting/dismissed/etc. We'll sit around 75 again without a doubt.

Sad considering how small our senior classes have been the last few years. Even adding in the guys leaving for the NFL early we aren't losing traditional numbers of seniors.
 
mjackson6 said:
Our 2020 recruiting class only has room for 6 maybe 7 guys including transfers. Some depends on Moise as well. Typically factor in 5 guys transferring out/quitting/dismissed/etc. We'll sit around 75 again without a doubt.

Sad considering how small our senior classes have been the last few years. Even adding in the guys leaving for the NFL early we aren't losing traditional numbers of seniors.
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Yes, because so many leave UM BEFORE they are seniors.

Our retention is, and has been, terrible. We need to develop and retain, the days of "signing 30" are long gone.
 
Not many top teams operate at 85 scholarships. Honestly im in favor of lowering the number down to 80
 
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561Cane said:
Who are those 8? I also expect more to leave never getting to 85 like most successful teams...
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Count on it. Our coach will spend the first two years.....

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We at 9 now fellas...more comin’! Said months ago Manny needed to sign 30 to be at 85 for Fall practice....no way he gets there.
 
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I believe you're only allowed to sign 25 in a single class, but then you can drag some from the last class and grey-shirt others for next year. Not sure how it all works, but I am curious if we could potentially fill all the slots or is it just 25 and you have to wait a couple of cycles to catch up?
 
The way the transfer portal is going and the NCAA is handing out waivers (the last stat I saw had waivers granted at just over a 75% clip), I expect this problem to get worse and even fewer teams to operate at max scholarship. In a five year span, you can theoretically bring in 125 players, but many won't redshirt (graduating after 4 years) and roster attrition is rough. Some kids will declare after 3 seasons, others will get injured and never play again, and more and more are transferring (whether its via grad transfer or a straight portal jump). In that same five year span, if you're losing 10 kids a year to injury + early entry to the NFL + graduating w/o a redshirt + transfer, that 125 number is suddenly 75. Sign less than full classes and you're hurting even more. Sure, you can sign a few walkons after a year to get an extra scholarship player without needing an IC, but those are bottom of the depth chart guys and true STs (long snapper/kicker/punter), in most instances.

The NCAA is going to need to address its IC rules now that this transfer game is as easy as it's ever been.
 
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561Cane said:
We at 9 now fellas...more comin’! Said months ago Manny needed to sign 30 to be at 85 for Fall practice....no way he gets there.
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you can’t sign 30. That’s the problem. It’s a hard 25 cap per class. The NCAA needs to change the rules now that kids can transfer whenever they want. Most schools will struggle to be at 85 when kids can walk and you can only grab 25 a year
 
BeastMode said:
you can’t sign 30. That’s the problem. It’s a hard 25 cap per class. The NCAA needs to change the rules now that kids can transfer whenever they want. Most schools will struggle to be at 85 when kids can walk and you can only grab 25 a year
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If you’re 12-15 scholarships short than there’s that built in excuse of why we suck next year. Manny will say we were dealt a handicap and he needs eight more seasons to fix it.
 
How many of those 85 team rosters play all their guys? I'd be more concerned with depth at individual positions than reaching the 85 man limit. You can offer walk- ons scholarships and get to the limit. Not sure that will help. Quality usually better than quantity.
 
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