Business decisions

[jkaz1]

I'd rather have a defensive HC who can recruit well than an offensive one.

Defense wins the championships.

I expect to see people calling for Rumph's head. I don't agree at all, but I get the reaction. Losing those two monsters from his old school was a failure. I also expect to see the usual suspects complaining about South Florida kids choosing to leave town.

Here is the hard truth. If your son is an engineering prodigy, you can't blame him for going to MIT. Alabama and Georgia were in the championship. Saban is the best DB coach alive. These kids want to win championships and go pro.

We need to become the business decision for DBs. That takes time. Nesta Silvera made his own business decision to sign with the best defensive line coach in America. Brevin Jordan and Will Mallory made business decisions to sign with TEU. Jarren Williams made a business decision to sign with a proven developer of QBs.

This is a big-time class. Best offensive class in the nation and very good defensive group. Nesta was the guy keeping me up at night. Him and Ezzard are nasty human beings. Jordan Miller was a gift from the nose tackle Gods. Bethel will be next development project for Rumph. Mike Jackson and Adrian Colbert turned out pretty well.

Richt is one of the most proven recruiters in America, along with Saban and Urban. This class is another feather in his cap.

 

[ghost2]

DMoney when do you expect the “business decisions” start trending up our way ? Class of 19” & 20”

Not D$ but I think it's already happening. If you look at the trajectory from Richt's first class to this one, you really can't argue that we're getting more of the elite players than we used to. As long as we keep winning you'll see the trend continue.

 

[Insanecane]

This class leaves us thin at *DE, CB, and DT.

*If Chatman signs that will help.

I consider classes an opportunity to fill needs and add talent. We did that offensively (missed on a good Left Tackle though) but left holes defensively. Richt has to recognize that he has fairly weak recruiters on the defensive side of the ball. Patke should not
get the 10th spot permenantely, we need a closer. Diaz, Rumph, Kul are not closers.

 

[GreatCane]

Rumph in his first 3 classes:

- loses our top cb prospect to Tennessee
- loses 2 of our top prospects to UF
- loses our top prospect to UGA, and another 5 star to Bama (both played for him at Heritage)

The guy is getting cucked by the SEC year in and year out. Clearly not a good recruiter. I will admit that he has developed some of our guys well but he has left us in an extremely vulnerable position at cb.

 

[dfagundo]

Rumph completely whiffed at AH he has coached TC for years even before AH. He gave Surtain a job at AH and made him his successor yet he couldn’t get these 2 kids which he obviously had the family’s of each of them trust. It’s pathetic and he needs to be held accountable.

Facts

 

[paksat]

Georgia was in the championship because of RICHT'S players.

Richt had his players for 15 years. Do we really think Smart won't be able to do it with his players? He's keeping everyone at home and railing off #1 classes. Look, I'm glad we have Richt but lets not distort who the better coach is.

better coach?

lmfao

better resources, bags, and lower morals? ok i'd agree with that

 

[ThomasM]

Georgia was in the championship because of RICHT'S players.

Richt had his players for 15 years. Do we really think Smart won't be able to do it with his players? He's keeping everyone at home and railing off #1 classes. Look, I'm glad we have Richt but lets not distort who the better coach is.

Larry Coker or Butch Davis... The jury is still out on Smart, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[stormsurge]

I expect to see people calling for Rumph's head. I don't agree at all, but I get the reaction. Losing those two monsters from his old school was a failure. I also expect to see the usual suspects complaining about South Florida kids choosing to leave town.

Here is the hard truth. If your son is an engineering prodigy, you can't blame him for going to MIT. Alabama and Georgia were in the championship. Saban is the best DB coach alive. These kids want to win championships and go pro.

We need to become the business decision for DBs. That takes time. Nesta Silvera made his own business decision to sign with the best defensive line coach in America. Brevin Jordan and Will Mallory made business decisions to sign with TEU. Jarren Williams made a business decision to sign with a proven developer of QBs.

This is a big-time class. Best offensive class in the nation and very good defensive group. Nesta was the guy keeping me up at night. Him and Ezzard are nasty human beings. Jordan Miller was a gift from the nose tackle Gods. Bethel will be next development project for Rumph. Mike Jackson and Adrian Colbert turned out pretty well.

Richt is one of the most proven recruiters in America, along with Saban and Urban. This class is another feather in his cap.

D$ I concur

If I'm an elite CB/DB and I look at Miami's DB/CB play this year I am wondering about our coaching. If I see Wisconsin WRs make our secondary look silly then I wonder even more about our coaching. Not a shock that you lose top secondary recruits to demonstrably better coached secondary schools.

The business decision may not be recruiting but coaching changes. Better secondary coaching.

 

[Rellyrell]

Get the **** outta here with this soft *** take Rumph was brought here to recruit and recruit only he serves 0 purpose on this staff Now

Ding, Ding, Ding. He was brought here for recruiting specifically for 2018 DB class. THATS ALL THE F>CK WE’VE TALKED ABOUT SINCE 2016!!! This was the most complete, elite DB class in our own back yard in a minute. The top 3 DBs were in our back yard and we literally went 0-3. Rumph went 0-2 for kids he’s known since dang near diapers! Lol. No way to spin this; this was a f>ckin chit show of a recruitment job. And I’m not just putting this on Rumph alone; Kul haven’t pulled his weight from the Mo.; TX areas either for DL. And I have no idea what kind of closer Diaz is!

All I know, my hatred for AH, UF, Bama, and UGA has ratcheted up 3 notches

 

[BoxingRobes]

I expect to see people calling for Rumph's head. I don't agree at all, but I get the reaction. Losing those two monsters from his old school was a failure. I also expect to see the usual suspects complaining about South Florida kids choosing to leave town.

Here is the hard truth. If your son is an engineering prodigy, you can't blame him for going to MIT. Alabama and Georgia were in the championship. Saban is the best DB coach alive. These kids want to win championships and go pro.

We need to become the business decision for DBs. That takes time. Nesta Silvera made his own business decision to sign with the best defensive line coach in America. Brevin Jordan and Will Mallory made business decisions to sign with TEU. Jarren Williams made a business decision to sign with a proven developer of QBs.

This is a big-time class. Best offensive class in the nation and very good defensive group. Nesta was the guy keeping me up at night. Him and Ezzard are nasty human beings. Jordan Miller was a gift from the nose tackle Gods. Bethel will be next development project for Rumph. Mike Jackson and Adrian Colbert turned out pretty well.

Richt is one of the most proven recruiters in America, along with Saban and Urban. This class is another feather in his cap.

Here is my issue, Good Brother.

These guys aren't the only game in town. South Florida is a DB factory. You DO NOT leave spots open for them. You don't miss out on Divaad Wilson or slow play Asante Jr. or (come up with your own example of a lower rated, still stud DB that goes on to be all-conference elsewhere) while you wait around for the business decision makers. This, ultimately, is a bigger problem then missing out on Surtain Jr. or Tyson Campbell. Losing them is one aspect of the failure, not securing another stud, of which our region has plenty of, is another, more negligent discussion point that needs to happen.

This is also a problem with iDL and OL, IMO, but we can shelve that discussion for now.

 

[JefeGringo]

Dalvin Cook alone keeps Alf employed and FSU from a championship.

Amari Cooper solidified a very weak WR group for Saban.

Now Saban gets Jobe and PS2 to go along with his stud QB and Juedy? ******* Christ.....

Until UM learns the game, and we are learning, this is the best class in a long, long time... we will continue to be on the outside looking in. Five star after five star from South Florida says thanks but no thanks.

We need to get lucky on a couple of fronts.... keep juniors who are borderline first day picks instead of them leaving and tryna feed they families (gee, wonder who I am talking about this year) and couple that with a once in a decade player peaking at the right time. That could turn the tide. Maybe.

 

[DMoney]

D$, so what business decision was made last year by all those guys that signed with a 5 loss uga team?

Campell wouldn't have signed with them if they had another bad year.

 

[Jude Jettson]

Absolutely terrible

 

[CanesSkins26]

I expect to see people calling for Rumph's head. I don't agree at all, but I get the reaction. Losing those two monsters from his old school was a failure. I also expect to see the usual suspects complaining about South Florida kids choosing to leave town.

Here is the hard truth. If your son is an engineering prodigy, you can't blame him for going to MIT. Alabama and Georgia were in the championship. Saban is the best DB coach alive. These kids want to win championships and go pro.

We need to become the business decision for DBs. That takes time. Nesta Silvera made his own business decision to sign with the best defensive line coach in America. Brevin Jordan and Will Mallory made business decisions to sign with TEU. Jarren Williams made a business decision to sign with a proven developer of QBs.

This is a big-time class. Best offensive class in the nation and very good defensive group. Nesta was the guy keeping me up at night. Him and Ezzard are nasty human beings. Jordan Miller was a gift from the nose tackle Gods. Bethel will be next development project for Rumph. Mike Jackson and Adrian Colbert turned out pretty well.

Richt is one of the most proven recruiters in America, along with Saban and Urban. This class is another feather in his cap.

The idea that we’re going to become a business decision destination for DBs with a guy that was coaching in HS a couple years ago and can’t bring in elite talent is unrealistic. This is going to keep happening until we upgrade.

 

[TheUuuuu]

We need to ******* stack chips, and those chips need to be blue. Not black, not red, BLUE.

In order to do that, we need to offer more than just a free education and pretty campus. I'll let you guess what that is. Hint...it's green.

 

[jjacks93]

Did Asante Samuel make a business decision signing with FSU over us when his DB coach wasn’t even hired yet ? Did Wilson , Edwards and Henderson make a business decision last year to sign with UF and go 4-7 over us ? UF DB coach that much better than Rumph ?

 

[ThomasM]

Rumph in his first 3 classes:

- loses our top cb prospect to Tennessee
- loses 2 of our top prospects to UF
- loses our top prospect to UGA, and another 5 star to Bama (both played for him at Heritage)

The guy is getting cucked by the SEC year in and year out. Clearly not a good recruiter. I will admit that he has developed some of our guys well but he has left us in an extremely vulnerable position at cb.

Question is, who would we hire that can reel those kids in? Could it be that no matter WHO we hire, they'd still get outbid by SEC schools?

 

[orange&green84]

Georgia was in the championship because of RICHT'S players.

This

 

[The []_[]]

Said it in another post. Rumph is one of the best coaches/teachers on this staff in my opinion. But changes need to be made. He should keep his job, however Richt needs to get Hartley, Diaz, little Richt, Banda, Dugans more involved in all of Kools and Rumphs targets.

 

[01Canes]

I'ma post my annual 2-year haul analysis later today once the board simmers down a little. I think put into that perspective you'll see we come out looking pretty good...

This was arguably the greatest DB class ever from South Florida. We missed on Campbell, Surtain, Jobe, and Samuel but still landed 4 very talented DBs.

The issue, though, is that this went from being hyped as potentially the greatest DB haul in program history to being the best DB class in the country to only adding a three-star redshirt candidate who didn't start on defense as a senior in high school instead of a Campbell or Surtain level program changer. The goalposts kept getting moved along the way and now we failed to land either of the elite CBs at the high school from which we hired our current CB coach.