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5-15 including 0 last 6 drives. Almost everyone was under 4yrds. Bottom line is we have a sr qb and that is a joke.
 
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We are ranked 67th in 3rd down conversions at 39.41%
QB is 31-73 for 42.5% and 2 td-8 ints on 3rd down. Fantastic.
 
Few times over the past couple games when we would have a second and short, throw deep and it be incomplete. Then try to run on 3rd and short and get stuffed. I HATE This.

Get the first down then open up the playbook and keep the drive going.
 
Can't convert 3rd downs. Can't stop the other team from converting.

That's how you describe painful football.
 
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I was going to start a thread on this but will simply post my thoughts here. This is what I see:

* Stephen Morris "can" be accurate when he has a wide open pocket that allows him to step into his throw. When the pocket gets even remotely tight Morris goes to an all arm throw which is horribly inaccurate. His mechanics, especially below the waist are that of a high school JV quarterback.

* Stephen Morris has refused to run the ball. On 3rd downs, many conversions are made with the QB's feet. I realize Morris has a bum wheel but if he's playing he needs to play to win, not just go thru the motions.
 
3rd downs are a problem, Morris is a problem, but I honestly don't care. Morris and the offense are good enough to win games. If we had Duke, Dorsett and Coley and a competent DC, we'd be 9-1 right now, and a legit 9-1. We would have put up 40+ and 600 yards yesterday with Duke and Dorsett and Coley. Any talk about Morris and the offense distracts from the major problem, the GOD**** DEFENSE.
 
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Notsince1985 said:
3rd downs are a problem, Morris is a problem, but I honestly don't care. Morris and the offense are good enough to win games. If we had Duke, Dorsett and Coley and a competent DC, we'd be 9-1 right now, and a legit 9-1. We would have put up 40+ and 600 yards yesterday with Duke and Dorsett and Coley. Any talk about Morris and the offense distracts from the major problem, the GOD**** DEFENSE.
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So we cant talk about the offensive problems because there is 100 threads about the defense and we should just stick to that. Everyone knows the defense is a huge ******* problem.
 
SFbayCane said:
I was going to start a thread on this but will simply post my thoughts here. This is what I see:

* Stephen Morris "can" be accurate when he has a wide open pocket that allows him to step into his throw. When the pocket gets even remotely tight Morris goes to an all arm throw which is horribly inaccurate. His mechanics, especially below the waist are that of a high school JV quarterback.

* Stephen Morris has refused to run the ball. On 3rd downs, many conversions are made with the QB's feet. I realize Morris has a bum wheel but if he's playing he needs to play to win, not just go thru the motions.
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Morris' mobility is clearly a problem, and could have been deadly on 3rd downs. I've lost count how many times he had open lanes for a 1st but couldn't get his wheels going. That is one "excuse" that is valid.

Still seems like he only has one option on 3rd down and by god, he is going to that option even if the guy is on the ground.
 
JHallCanes said:
SFbayCane said:
I was going to start a thread on this but will simply post my thoughts here. This is what I see:

* Stephen Morris "can" be accurate when he has a wide open pocket that allows him to step into his throw. When the pocket gets even remotely tight Morris goes to an all arm throw which is horribly inaccurate. His mechanics, especially below the waist are that of a high school JV quarterback.

* Stephen Morris has refused to run the ball. On 3rd downs, many conversions are made with the QB's feet. I realize Morris has a bum wheel but if he's playing he needs to play to win, not just go thru the motions.
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Morris' mobility is clearly a problem, and could have been deadly on 3rd downs. I've lost count how many times he had open lanes for a 1st but couldn't get his wheels going. That is one "excuse" that is valid.

Still seems like he only has one option on 3rd down and by god, he is going to that option even if the guy is on the ground.
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Yeah, dont know why this is, but it almost seems he wants nothing to do with contact which led to the ball thrown at DL when he tackled him oob, it comes across a little premadonnaish
 
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Not cutting it. That's for sure. I thought he had a heck of a first half. I really did. On target, throwing underneath for good gains. It all went south in the second half. Funny thing is. I thought we ran the ball better in the second half. It's nitpicky, but there have been maybe 3 or 4 times this year where he's taken off and run out of bounds short of the sticks and it's maddening. I understand he might be gunshy because of his wheel, and maybe his coaches even tell him to not take the hit, but ****, the game was on the line yesterday. Your the Senior leader, put your head down and go for the yard. Man, that's just flat out frustrating. Then on top of it, Al kicks the friggin ball and game over because the defense is shot. Earlier in the year he kicked the ball and put the game in the hands of the D and it worked. They were in a better place. But yesterday? Wow. Just. Wow. Oh yeah, third down. Duke up the middle. Oh, wait. How about my Mo ****** Hagens yesterday? Where the **** was that all year? Good Gawd...
 
Morris is screws up and acts like he don't care. Def seen that and gave up. Morris gives a lousy effort. If u don't think it matters. Ask the gators def who believed in tebow there is a reason the coaches started jacory and tried to bringing tate forcier
 
GonzoCane said:
Not cutting it. That's for sure. I thought he had a heck of a first half. I really did. On target, throwing underneath for good gains. It all went south in the second half. Funny thing is. I thought we ran the ball better in the second half. It's nitpicky, but there have been maybe 3 or 4 times this year where he's taken off and run out of bounds short of the sticks and it's maddening. I understand he might be gunshy because of his wheel, and maybe his coaches even tell him to not take the hit, but ****, the game was on the line yesterday. Your the Senior leader, put your head down and go for the yard. Man, that's just flat out frustrating. Then on top of it, Al kicks the friggin ball and game over because the defense is shot. Earlier in the year he kicked the ball and put the game in the hands of the D and it worked. They were in a better place. But yesterday? Wow. Just. Wow. Oh yeah, third down. Duke up the middle. Oh, wait. How about my Mo ****** Hagens yesterday? Where the **** was that all year? Good Gawd...
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It's not nip picky. He starts 2nd half of fsu with a horrible 3 and out and walks off the field like he don't even bother him. He has sucked all year. The def gave up on him. They have minimum talent and have been run into the ground
 
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JHallCanes said:
Still seems like he only has one option on 3rd down and by god, he is going to that option even if the guy is on the ground.
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This is a trait he displays on all downs. I´m sure it doesn´t make playcalling any easier for JColey.
 
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