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2010 vs. 2014 Roster

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Pretty evident that what Golden has built is more talented than what he inherited.

2010:
FB David Thompson Redshirt.svg Fr
FB 30 Patrick Hill Sr
FB 43 John Calhoun Jr
OL Eduardo Lopez Redshirt.svg Fr
OL 55 Ben Jones So
OL 61 Joel Figueroa Sr
OL 62 Shane McDermott Fr
OL 63 Tyler Horn Jr
OL 65 Brandon Linder Fr
OL 66 Harland Gunn Jr
OL 70 Jonathan Feliciano Fr
OL 71 Cory White Redshirt.svg Fr
OL 72 Brandon Washington So
OL 73 Jermaine Barton Fr
OL 74 Orlando Franklin Sr
OL 75 Jared Wheeler Redshirt.svg Fr
OL 77 Seantrel Henderson Fr
OL 78 Jermaine Johnson Redshirt.svg Fr
OL 79 Malcolm Bunche Fr
QB 11 A.J. Highsmith So
QB 12 Jacory Harris Jr
QB 16 Spencer Whipple Jr
QB 17 Stephen Morris Fr
RB 2 Graig Cooper Sr
RB 5 Mike James So
RB 6 Lamar Miller Redshirt.svg Fr
RB 19 Darion Hall Fr
RB 20 Damien Berry Sr
RB 23 Eduardo Clements Fr
RB 24 Storm Johnson Fr
RB 32 Lee Chambers Jr
RB 33 Maurice Hagens Fr
TE 9 Chase Ford Jr
TE 46 Clive Walford Fr
TE 82 Asante Cleveland Fr
TE 84 Richard Gordon Sr
TE 87 Andrew Tallman Fr
TE 88 Billy Sanders Redshirt.svg Fr
WR Ben Bruneau So
WR 3 Travis Benjamin Jr
WR 4 Aldarius Johnson Jr
WR 47 LaRon Byrd Jr
WR 80 Allen Hurns Fr
WR 81 Davon Johnson So
WR 83 Kendal Tompkins So
WR 85 Leonard Hankerson Sr
WR 86 Tommy Streeter So
Defense
Pos. # Name Class
DB Nathan Gholston So
DB 1 Brandon Harris Jr
DB 7 Vaughn Telemaque So
DB 8 DeMarcus Van Dyke Sr
DB 13 Ryan Hill Sr
DB 15 Jamal Reid Redshirt.svg Fr
DB 18 Devont'a Davis Fr
DB 21 Brandon McGee So
DB 22 Kacy Rodgers Fr
DB 26 Ray-Ray Armstrong So
DB 29 Joshua Livesley Fr
DB 29 JoJo Nicolas Jr
DB 29 Keion Payne Fr
DB 37 Jared Campbell Sr
DB 38 Cory Nelms Sr
DL 35 Olivier Vernon So
DL 48 Andrew Smith Jr
DL 49 Dyron Dye Redshirt.svg Fr
DL 54 Micanor Regis Jr
DL 56 Marcus Robinson Jr
DL 57 Allen Bailey Sr
DL 91 Jeffrey Brown Fr
DL 92 Josh Holmes Sr
DL 93 Luther Robinson Redshirt.svg Fr
DL 95 Gavin Hardin So
DL 96 Curtis Porter So
DL 97 Adewale Ojomo Jr
DL 98 Jeremy Lewis Jr
DL 99 Marcus Fortson So
LB Erik Lichter So
LB 31 Sean Spence Jr
LB 34 C.J. Holton So
LB 36 Kylan Robinson Sr
LB 39 Tyrone Cornelius Fr
LB 41 Travis Williams Fr
LB 44 Colin McCarthy Sr
LB 45 Ramon Buchanan Jr
LB 51 Shayon Green Redshirt.svg Fr
LB 52 Kevin Nelson Fr
LB 53 Levi Paalua So
LB 58 Jordan Futch Jr
LB 59 James Gaines Fr
LB 69 Sean Goldstein So
LB 94 Kelvin Cain Fr







2014:
WR D'Mauri Jones Redshirt.svg So
WR Darrell Langham Fr
WR 3 Stacy Coley So
WR 4 Phillip Dorsett Sr
WR 6 Herb Waters Jr
WR 9 Malcolm Lewis Redshirt.svg So
WR 21 Josh Johnson Redshirt.svg Fr
WR 24 Stephen Sweeney Redshirt.svg Jr
WR 31 Malik Mayweather Redshirt.svg Fr
WR 38 Joseph Rodgers Jr
WR 80 Rashawn Scott Sr
WR 82 Tyre Brady Fr
WR 83 Braxton Berrios Fr
WR 84 Greg Golden Redshirt.svg Fr
WR 86 David Njoku Fr
WR 87 Garrett Kidd Redshirt.svg Jr
TE 5 Standish Dobard So
TE 23 Chris Herndon IV Fr
TE 45 Isai Cetoute Jr
TE 46 Clive Walford Redshirt.svg Sr
TE 85 Beau Sandland Sr
TE 88 Jake O'Donnell Redshirt.svg So
RB/WR Trayone Gray Fr
RB 2 Joseph Yearby Fr
RB 7 Gus Edwards So
RB 8 Duke Johnson Jr
RB 30 De'Andre Johnson Redshirt.svg Sr
QB 11 Ryan Williams Injured Redshirt.svg Sr
QB 12 Malik Rosier Fr
QB 13 Gray Crow Redshirt.svg So
QB 15 Brad Kaaya Fr
QB 16 Jake Heaps Redshirt.svg Sr
QB 17 Isaac Hoza Redshirt.svg Fr
QB 18 Michael Welch Redshirt.svg Fr
QB 19 Kevin Olsen Redshirt.svg Fr
OT 52 Kc McDermott Fr
OT 66 Sunny Odogwu Redshirt.svg Fr
OT 74 Ereck Flowers Jr
OT 76 Taylor Gadbois Redshirt.svg So
OT 78 Raphael Akpejiori Redshirt.svg Sr
OL 65 Sterling Jackson Fr
OL 69 Tyler Grimsley Fr
OL 73 Trevor Darling Fr
OL 75 Sean Harvey Redshirt.svg Sr
OL 77 Adam Arnaout Fr
OL 79 Justin Goldberg Fr
OG 63 Danny Isidora Redshirt.svg So
OG 64 Hunter Wells Redshirt.svg Jr
OG 67 Alex Gall So
OG 70 Jon Feliciano Redshirt.svg Sr
FB/RB 44 Walter Tucker So
FB 39 Ronald Regula Redshirt.svg Sr
FB 40 Matt Golden Fr
FB 43 Tyler Odems So
C/OG 54 Hunter Knighton Injured Redshirt.svg Fr
C 62 Shane McDermott Redshirt.svg Sr
C 68 Nick Linder Fr
Defense
Pos. # Name Class
CB 1 Artie Burns So
CB 41 Wyatt Chickillo Redshirt.svg Fr
CB 21 Antonio Crawford Jr
CB 35 Nate Dortch Redshirt.svg So
CB 29 Corn Elder So
CB 37 Ladarius Gunter Redshirt.svg Sr
CB 3 Tracy Howard Jr
CB 20 Ray Lewis III Redshirt.svg Fr
CB 27 Ryan Mayes Fr
DE 71 Anthony Chickillo Sr
DE 94 Anthony Naser Redshirt.svg Jr
DE 9 Chad Thomas Fr
DE/DT 99 Jelani Hamilton Jr
DE/DT 47 Ufomba Kamalu Redshirt.svg Jr
DE/OLB 33 Trent Harris Fr
DE/OLB 44 Demetrius Jackson Fr
DE/OLB 17 Tyriq McCord Jr
DE/OLB 98 Al-Quadin Muhammad So
DE/OLB 57 Mike Smith Fr
DT 55 Joe Brown Fr
DT 93 Calvin Heurtelou Jr
DT 92 Courtel Jenkins Fr
DT 90 Corey King Redshirt.svg Jr
DT 72 Earl Moore Jr
DT 91 Olsen Pierre Sr
DT 11 Michael Wyche Jr
DT/DE 95 Anthony Moten Fr
ILB 53 Jared Goldenberg Redshirt.svg Fr
ILB 5 Jermaine Grace So
ILB 56 Raphael Kirby Jr
ILB 50 Terry McCray Fr
ILB 51 Juwon Young Fr
OLB 34 Thurston Armbrister Redshirt.svg Jr
OLB 58 Darrion Owens Fr
OLB 52 Denzel Perryman Sr
S 2 Deon Bush Jr
S 6 Jamal Carter So
S 25 Dallas Crawford Redshirt.svg Jr
S 48 Hugo Delapenha Jr. Redshirt.svg Sr
S 28 Nantambu-Akil Fentress Sr
S 7 Marques Gayot Fr
S 22 Kiy Hester Fr
S 26 Rayshawn Jenkins Jr
S 44 Dominic Sicilian Redshirt.svg So
S 38 Jordan Tolson Redshirt.svg Sr
 
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CaneAlmighty said:
Comparing the two rosters trying to find any unit where 2010's better and I can't.
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You can't be serious can you? Or am I reading this the wrong way?

2010's roster>2014's until further notice.

DL, LB, OL, DB, QB, RB, TE, and WR were all better. In terms of depth 2014 gets the nod, but more established players on the 2010 squad.
 
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Objectively, 2010 was better. 2010 roster had 33 kids who were 4/5 stars. Our current roster has 28.

4/5 stars in 2010:

OL 65 Brandon Linder Fr XXXX
OL 72 Brandon Washington So XXXX
OL 74 Orlando Franklin Sr XXXX
OL 77 Seantrel Henderson Fr XXXXX
OL 78 Jermaine Johnson Redshirt.svg Fr XXXX
OL 79 Malcolm Bunche Fr XXXX
QB 12 Jacory Harris Jr XXXX
RB 2 Graig Cooper Sr XXXXX
RB 5 Mike James So XXXX
RB 6 Lamar Miller Redshirt.svg Fr XXXX
RB 23 Eduardo Clements Fr XXXX
RB 24 Storm Johnson Fr XXXX
WR 3 Travis Benjamin Jr XXXX
WR 4 Aldarius Johnson Jr XXXX
WR 86 Tommy Streeter So XXXX
DB 1 Brandon Harris Jr XXXX
DB 7 Vaughn Telemaque So XXXX
DB 8 DeMarcus Van Dyke Sr XXXX
DB 13 Ryan Hill Sr xxxx
DB 15 Jamal Reid Redshirt.svg Fr XXXX
DB 21 Brandon McGee So XXXX
DB 26 Ray-Ray Armstrong So XXXXX
DL 35 Olivier Vernon So XXXX
DL 49 Dyron Dye Redshirt.svg Fr XXXX
DL 56 Marcus Robinson Jr XXXX
DL 57 Allen Bailey Sr XXXX
DL 92 Josh Holmes Sr XXXX
DL 93 Luther Robinson Redshirt.svg Fr XXXX
DL 98 Jeremy Lewis Jr XXXX
DL 99 Marcus Fortson So XXXXX
LB 31 Sean Spence Jr XXXX
LB 41 Travis Williams Fr XXXX
LB 58 Jordan Futch Jr XXXX
 
Call me crazy, but doing the same exercise with that 2001 team was kinda fun.

Sure there are some positions where it's obvious we aren't 2001-caliber (QB and DL, most notably), but imo the secondary is as good or better this year with talent and depth, the receivers are better (so much explosiveness there it's scary), rb is a wash at worst, OL is just as good too.

Not saying we're 2001, but goddamnit, if we're not as good, we're as close as we can get.

#Whynot:neonu:s
 
CanesFan93 said:
CaneAlmighty said:
Comparing the two rosters trying to find any unit where 2010's better and I can't.
Click to expand...

You can't be serious can you? Or am I reading this the wrong way?

2010's roster>2014's until further notice.

DL, LB, OL, DB, QB, RB, TE, and WR were all better. In terms of depth 2014 gets the nod, but more established players on the 2010 squad.
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I'm serious.
DL, LB, QB, OL, LB push
WR, RB, TE, DB 2014
 
Depending on what your definition of talent is.

Who has more stars?
-It has already been posted the 2010 team had a higher amount of 4/5 star players.
Advantage: 2010

Who has more draft picks?
-2010 had 8 picks, 5 quality picks (1-3 (just to pick a number))
-2014 undetermined
Advantage : check back after the season

Who won more?
-2010 team won 7 games.
-2014 undetermined
Advantage : check back after the season

What team would I rather take over?
-2010 already know how they performed
-2014 undetermined
Advantage : My personal opinion is that someone from the 2014 team will start the 1st round draft streak in the next draft. There will be a good number of quality picks (4). I also believe the 2014 squad will end up with more than 7 wins. The 2014 team has less 4/5 stars, but believe have better actual talent. Who would I rather start with? 2014.

We'll find out pretty soon
 
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can't believe we did so poorly with that 2010 roster. Shannon truly deserved to get fired for that. Putrid.
 
valid said:
can't believe we did so poorly with that 2010 roster. Shannon truly deserved to get fired for that. Putrid.
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Now for fun imagine the 2010 roster with Charlie Strong as the head coach... Would've been a lot more interesting for sure.
 
weownfsu said:
2010 roster had far better starters. No idea whether the backups are any good.
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OFFENSE

WIDE RECEIVER
3 Travis Benjamin (5-11, 176, Jr.) Coley
47 LaRon Byrd (6-4, 215, Jr.)


LEFT TACKLE

74 Orlando Franklin (6-7, 312, Sr.) Flowers

55 Ben Jones (6-5, 300, Soph.)

71 Cory White (6-6, 270, R-Fr.)

LEFT GUARD

66 Harland Gunn (6-2, 315, Jr.) Feliciano

75 Jared Wheeler (6-5, 315, R-Fr.)

CENTER

63 Tyler Horn (6-4, 295, Jr.) Gall

65 Brandon Linder (6-6, 300, Fr.)

RIGHT GUARD

72 Brandon Washington (6-4, 330, Soph.) Isidora

79 Malcolm Bunche (6-7, 328, Fr.)

RIGHT TACKLE

61 Joel Figueroa (6-6, 323, Sr.) Gadbois

78 Jermaine Johnson (6-6, 330, R-Fr.)

77 Seantrel Henderson (6-8, 355, Fr.)

TIGHT END

84 Richard Gordon (6-4, 265, Sr.) Walford

9 Chase Ford (6-6, 245, Jr.)

82 Asante Cleveland (6-5, 245, Fr.)

88 Billy Sanders (6-4, 248, R-Fr.)

WIDE RECEIVER

85 Leonard Hankerson (6-3, 205, Sr.) Dorsett

or 4 Aldarius Johnson (6-3, 200, Jr.) Malcolm Lewis

QB

12 Jacory Harris (6-4, 200, Jr.) Heaps

11 Alonzo Highsmith (6-0, 195, Soph.)

16 Spencer Whipple (6-2, 210, Jr.)

TAILBACK

20 Damien Berry (6-0, 215, Sr.) Duke

5 Mike James (6-0, 217, Soph.) Gus/Yearby

FULLBACK

30 Patrick Hill (5-9, 255, Sr.)

33 Maurice Hagens (5-11, 232, Fr.)

DEFENSE

LEFT END

57 Allen Bailey (6-4, 285, Sr.) Chick

56 Marcus Robinson (6-1, 240, Jr.)

49 Dyron Dye (6-5, 255, R-Fr.)

LEFT TACKLE

92 Josh Holmes (6-0, 280, Sr.) Wyche

99 Marcus Forston (6-3, 305, R-Soph.)

98 Jeremy Lewis (6-4, 310, Jr.)

RIGHT TACKLE

54 Micanor Regis (6-3, 305, Jr.) Pierre

93 Luther Robinson (6-3, 295, R-Fr.)

96 Curtis Porter (6-1, 315, Soph.)

RIGHT END

35 Olivier Vernon (6-4, 250, Soph.) Muhammad/McCord

or 97 Adewale Ojomo (6-4, 260, Jr.)

or 48 Andrew Smith (6-3, 245, Jr.)

STRONGSIDE LINEBACKER

36 Kylan Robinson (6-1, 235, Sr.)

or 45 Ramon Buchanan (6-1, 220, Jr.) Armbrister

MIDDLE LINEBACKER

44 Colin McCarthy (6-2, 240, Sr.) Perryman

94 Kelvin Cain (6-3, 226, Fr.)

WEAKSIDE LINEBACKER

31 Sean Spence (6-0, 220, Jr.) Kirby

59 James Gaines (6-3, 205, Fr.)

or 58 Jordan Futch (6-3, 240, Jr.)

LEFT CORNERBACK

8 DeMarcus Van Dyke (6-1, 185, Sr.) Gunter

13 Ryan Hill (6-0, 205, Sr.)

RIGHT CORNERBACK

1 Brandon Harris (5-11, 195, Jr.) Howard

21 Brandon McGee (6-0, 180, Soph.)

STRONG SAFETY

26 Ray Armstrong (6-4, 215, Soph.) Carter

29 JoJo Nicolas (6-1, 205, R-Jr.)

FREE SAFETY

7 Vaughn Telemaque (6-2, 207, Soph.) Bush

22 Kacy Rodgers (6-2, 195, Fr.)

or 37 Jared Campbell (6-0, 205, Sr.)
 
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Seems pretty close starter for starter…honestly I'd give the edge to 2014

Safety: 14
Corner: 10
LB: 10
DL: Push
WR: Push
TE: 14
QB: 14 (obviously betting on the unknown…but I think Heaps will have a far better year than JH)
RB: 14
OL: 10 (could be a push, but too much unknown with the current group)
 
I disagree pretty strongly that the 2014 DL is a push with the 2010 DL. In 2010, we had Allen Bailey, Vernon, Ojomo, and Marcus Robinson at DE. Bailey and Vernon are going to have long careers in the NFL, and Ojomo and Robinson were fairly productive college players--more productive than any DL last year, at least. Chickillo certainly is not any better than Bailey--I would say at his peak he's about as good as Ojomo-- we've seen nothing from Kamalu, AQM has shown flashes but was not at the level that Vernon was as a freshman, and nobody else at the DE spot has shown anything like Ojomo or Robinson did (though if you want to say that McCord is a DE, he is better than Marcus Robinson through two years). Forston and Regis were meh overall, but I see nobody on the roster at DT who can make a claim to even being "meh" at this point without some conjecture.

I realize I talked about some backups there, but even if you consider just starters, there is maybe one guy on the 2014 DL who would start on the 2010 DL.
 
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I agree with you on everything except DL (2010) and CB (2014).

CyberCane said:
Seems pretty close starter for starter…honestly I'd give the edge to 2014

Safety: 14
Corner: 10
LB: 10
DL: Push
WR: Push
TE: 14
QB: 14 (obviously betting on the unknown…but I think Heaps will have a far better year than JH)
RB: 14
OL: 10 (could be a push, but too much unknown with the current group)
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Let's compare the pre-season depth chart from 2010 to the pre-season depth chart for this season.


Offense (2014 wins 4-2)

QB Jacory Harris < Heaps/Olsen/Kaaya

RB Damien Berry < Johnson


WR Laron Byrd < Coley

WR Leonard Hankerson > Waters

TE Richard Gordon < Walford/Sandland/Dobard

LT Orlando Franklin = Flowers

LG Brandon Washington > Feliciano

C Tyler Horn = McDermott

RG Joel Figueroa = Isadora

RT Jermaine Johnson = Gadbois



Defense (2014 wins 6-1)

RDE Allen Bailey = Chickillo

RDT Josh Holmes < Pierre

LDT Marcus Forston = Wyche

LDE Adewale Ojomo < AQM

SLB Sean Spence > Armbrister

MLB Colin McCarthy < Perryman

WLB Kylan Robinson < Kirby

CB Brandon Harris < Howard

FS Vaughn Telemaque, < Bush

SS Ray Ray Armstrong = Jamal Carter

CB DeMarcus Van Dyke = Artie Burns

Specialists (2010 wins 2-0)

PK Matt Bosher > Goudis

P Matt Bosher > UF Transfer guy




So looking at this, I agree that I like this year's starters better. I could be biased.
 
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Yeah the DL was tough. I tried to look at that by committee because that's truly how the position group is utilized. Look at what Bailey and Vernon actually did in college. To me, they were very underwhelming for guys that have been able to stick on NFL rosters--especially Vernon who appears he might turn into a situational star. Ojomo, Robinson, Smith, and Dye all were jags to terrible in ability.

This is one of the position group where the call will have to be made after the season because there is too much unknown. I'll say this…if Chick looked like Allen Bailey, I think people would easily say he's a push if not better. Chick already has more sacks than Bailey in 13 less game played.
 
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