#1 Defense vs #1 Offense

[Miami82]

We just watched how that played out.

Can you imagine a Miami D playing with Aggressive/fast/attacking mentality????

 

[UMFarArcher]

Yeah, I can imagine it.

I used to watch it right here at the U.

Till Dumb and Dumber got here.

 

[DHucks]

Defense wins championships. The proof was in the pudding.

 

[poncho0091]

Seriously that wasn't even about defense as much as it was about Seattle's Dline abusing Denver's OL. Everything else was a moot point. Everyone else might as well have not even shown up, because Denver's OL got manhandled.

 

[The Dude]

It's the first time in the "new" nfl that receivers were hesitant to make the tough catches because of the way Seattles D was hitting. I am in awe of how violent that D is. One could only hope we can achieve that at Miami again

 

[TexasCane90]

the sad part is we have all the recruits year in and year out to fill a D team with studs that can play like that

instead golden and Dorito want to run a slow aged out big ten style "prevent" defense

 

[TexasCane90]

the sad part is we have all the recruits year in and year out to fill a D team with studs that can play like that

instead golden and Dorito want to run a slow aged out big ten style "prevent" defense

 

[Awsi Dooger]

Takes special people to put together a team and defense like that. We don't have anyone who qualifies. Nor do the Dolphins. Can you imagine Paul Allen settling for Sun Life Stadium?

Roger Goodell no doubt is already scheming to eliminate that defense. His showcase turned into 36-0 late third quarter. He plays to the most unsophisticated fans who want 36-35. Goodell thought he had legislated out defenses like Seattle years ago. Now he'll have to take it to the league meetings again, trying to further restrict downfield contact, along with making sure the officials interpret the current rules more strictly. I wouldn't be surprised if Seattle plays the same way next season but draws bushels of flags until they are forced to adjust.

Regardless, it was an awesome game. Seattle led the league in Yards Per Pass Attempt Differential at +2.1 so they were the deserving champ. My YPPA Differential system went 7-2 against the spread in the playoffs including Seattle today.

 

[77cane]

the sad part is we have all the recruits year in and year out to fill a D team with studs that can play like that

instead golden and Dorito want to run a slow aged out big ten style "prevent" defense

Who are these Players the last 4 years. We can criticize coaching ability all we want but there has not been a bunch o "studs" here.

 

[killacane]

Do not worry, we are in good shape on D!!!

 

[LuCane]

Matchups.

 

[Miami82]

the sad part is we have all the recruits year in and year out to fill a D team with studs that can play like that

instead golden and Dorito want to run a slow aged out big ten style "prevent" defense

Who are these Players the last 4 years. We can criticize coaching ability all we want but there has not been a bunch o "studs" here.

This has been beaten into the ground ad nauseam, but we had the talent to beat Duke and VT.

 

[zellerdog]

im not an x-o guy but that games seemed more lopsided than 43-8, if that's even possible.

boring *** game for those of us who gave no ***** about who won.

and, as soon as the safety was scored i knew my numbers in the office pool were totally ****ed.

so pretty much a ****** superbowl.

 

[Pixelated bukake]

Takes special people to put together a team and defense like that. We don't have anyone who qualifies. Nor do the Dolphins. Can you imagine Paul Allen settling for Sun Life Stadium?

Roger Goodell no doubt is already scheming to eliminate that defense. His showcase turned into 36-0 late third quarter. He plays to the most unsophisticated fans who want 36-35. Goodell thought he had legislated out defenses like Seattle years ago. Now he'll have to take it to the league meetings again, trying to further restrict downfield contact, along with making sure the officials interpret the current rules more strictly. I wouldn't be surprised if Seattle plays the same way next season but draws bushels of flags until they are forced to adjust.

Regardless, it was an awesome game. Seattle led the league in Yards Per Pass Attempt Differential at +2.1 so they were the deserving champ. My YPPA Differential system went 7-2 against the spread in the playoffs including Seattle today.

I agree that he was probably unhappy with the lopsided nature of the game but it's hard to legislate what Seattle does so well, which is play strong at the point of attack with fast and aggressive players executing effectively at the second level. Most teams that are that strong at the line are slow on the back and vice versa. Glad they didn't call the game tightly, as that would have negated some of Seattle's advantages. I was also impressed that they kept the scheme simple. Sherman said today they basically played Cover 1 or Cover 3 with a few different pressures up front. In their case, the scheme is simple, it's all about elite athletes executing flawlessly.
That secondary definitely intimidates while playing within the rules.

 

[LuCane]

Takes special people to put together a team and defense like that. We don't have anyone who qualifies. Nor do the Dolphins. Can you imagine Paul Allen settling for Sun Life Stadium?

Roger Goodell no doubt is already scheming to eliminate that defense. His showcase turned into 36-0 late third quarter. He plays to the most unsophisticated fans who want 36-35. Goodell thought he had legislated out defenses like Seattle years ago. Now he'll have to take it to the league meetings again, trying to further restrict downfield contact, along with making sure the officials interpret the current rules more strictly. I wouldn't be surprised if Seattle plays the same way next season but draws bushels of flags until they are forced to adjust.

Regardless, it was an awesome game. Seattle led the league in Yards Per Pass Attempt Differential at +2.1 so they were the deserving champ. My YPPA Differential system went 7-2 against the spread in the playoffs including Seattle today.

I agree that he was probably unhappy with the lopsided nature of the game but it's hard to legislate what Seattle does so well, which is play strong at the point of attack with fast and aggressive players executing effectively at the second level. Most teams that are that strong at the line are slow on the back and vice versa. Glad they didn't call the game tightly, as that would have negated some of Seattle's advantages. I was also impressed that they kept the scheme simple. Sherman said today they basically played Cover 1 or Cover 3 with a few different pressures up front. In their case, the scheme is simple, it's all about elite athletes executing flawlessly.
That secondary definitely intimidates while playing within the rules.

They played some of the most beautiful Cover 3 you'll ever see. Crossing routes were destroyed and Manning never had enough time to effectively hit the seams.

 

[RiDLer80]

Seattle doesn't do much exotic things, but they execute the few things they do to perfection. The play where Chancellor carried Julius Thomas on the seam route then passed him off as Welker came crossing and crushed him was beautiful. I wonder if our player will ever be able to do that.

 

[Pixelated bukake]

Seattle doesn't do much exotic things, but they execute the few things they do to perfection. The play where Chancellor carried Julius Thomas on the seam route then passed him off as Welker came crossing and crushed him was beautiful. I wonder if our player will ever be able to do that.

I was listening to Cowherd today as he interviewed Drew Bledsoe, who was saying that Seattle's DB's actually read the offense's routes and adjust to them, which is exemplified in the play you mentioned. Bledsoe was saying that the other team that would do that was New England under Belichik. The result is that the DB's are not where the QB expects them to be. Bledsoe described that the key to this working is that all of the DB's are reading and recognizing the same thing, which prevents or limits there from being a blown assignment.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

I agree that he was probably unhappy with the lopsided nature of the game but it's hard to legislate what Seattle does so well, which is play strong at the point of attack with fast and aggressive players executing effectively at the second level. Most teams that are that strong at the line are slow on the back and vice versa. Glad they didn't call the game tightly, as that would have negated some of Seattle's advantages. I was also impressed that they kept the scheme simple. Sherman said today they basically played Cover 1 or Cover 3 with a few different pressures up front. In their case, the scheme is simple, it's all about elite athletes executing flawlessly.
That secondary definitely intimidates while playing within the rules.

They play within the current rules interpretations in the playoffs. I'm not confident Goodell won't push for a change. He doesn't care about eliminating an historically great defense or that the rules changes make sense. Many analysts say Seattle knows they won't be called for 10 or 12 flags against the cornerbacks so they are willing to accept 2 or 3 in return for playing on the edge of the rules. Roughly 10 years ago after a Colts/Patriots playoff game in Foxborough the same situation arose after the Colt receivers were mauled. Manning and the Colts complained bitterly and sure enough the changes were implemented the following season. Defensive penalty numbers soared throughout the league. I don't have the specific numbers in front of me but it considerable, and well known in Las Vegas. It lasted only a couple of seasons and then the penalty numbers retreated to prior levels. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again, if not more dramatically.

Here's an article that references what I'm talking about:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?id=1771047

 

[LuCane]

I agree that he was probably unhappy with the lopsided nature of the game but it's hard to legislate what Seattle does so well, which is play strong at the point of attack with fast and aggressive players executing effectively at the second level. Most teams that are that strong at the line are slow on the back and vice versa. Glad they didn't call the game tightly, as that would have negated some of Seattle's advantages. I was also impressed that they kept the scheme simple. Sherman said today they basically played Cover 1 or Cover 3 with a few different pressures up front. In their case, the scheme is simple, it's all about elite athletes executing flawlessly.
That secondary definitely intimidates while playing within the rules.

They play within the current rules interpretations in the playoffs. I'm not confident Goodell won't push for a change. He doesn't care about eliminating an historically great defense or that the rules changes make sense. Many analysts say Seattle knows they won't be called for 10 or 12 flags against the cornerbacks so they are willing to accept 2 or 3 in return for playing on the edge of the rules. Roughly 10 years ago after a Colts/Patriots playoff game in Foxborough the same situation arose after the Colt receivers were mauled. Manning and the Colts complained bitterly and sure enough the changes were implemented the following season. Defensive penalty numbers soared throughout the league. I don't have the specific numbers in front of me but it considerable, and well known in Las Vegas. It lasted only a couple of seasons and then the penalty numbers retreated to prior levels. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again, if not more dramatically.

Here's an article that references what I'm talking about:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?id=1771047

While typically true, what effected Manning more than the physical play was the inability to stretch that defense out vertically. They were sitting on literally almost all of the horizontal stuff. If Manning or anyone wants to beat that defense, start running Power more often to get that Safety deep into the box and then beat them down the middle of the field (or with a QB running). San Francisco had the recipe. CK impatiently lost that game.

 

[Angry Ibis]

the sad part is we have all the recruits year in and year out to fill a D team with studs that can play like that

instead golden and Dorito want to run a slow aged out big ten style "prevent" defense

Who are these Players the last 4 years. We can criticize coaching ability all we want but there has not been a bunch o "studs" here.

This has been beaten into the ground ad nauseam, but we had the talent to beat Duke and VT.

Sadly that talent turned it over 3 times in a row against VT making it too hard to overcome and Duke beat our talents **** in the dirt on the line.